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  ::                     - WHAT'S RATTLIN' ? -                    ::
  ::       The Weekly Digest for Canterbury Music Addicts         ::
  ::                          Issue # 89                          ::
  ::                  Saturday, April 11th, 1998                  ::
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From: David Kipling <dkipling@bcit.bc.ca>
Subject: Subscribe to Whats Rattlin
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 16:18:56 -0800

Help!! How do I get into RATTLIN' with a question?

The old frequent question:  any news of a real CD of Centipede yet?  A
year ago I was warned off a low-quality vinyl-copied CD.

I am in Canada, but watched Softs, Mole, Tippett trio, Centipede in the    
very early seventies in Britain.
David Kipling


Subject: More Pye, pleez !
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:38:15 EST

Considering the fact that I am a tremendous Caravan fan, reading the "excerpts" from the Pye Hastings fax was of great interest to me... I would like to ask though....
Was there any other infomation in the fax worth sharing and if so, are you
saving it for a future WR ?...


[No, I include all the interesting bits. I originally contacted him to get the contacts of newest Caravan members Doug Boyle and Simon Bentall in order to conduct interviews with them - AL]


From: Jason Kesselring <JKessel5@concentric.net>
Subject: Skye Klad-ambient groove based spacerock form Minneapolis mn USA
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 00:32:49 -0800

Greetings Aymeric!

It's great to see some kindred spirits out there! I am a huge Gong fan and must say that Camembert Electrique is my favorite album even though it does not have the phenomenal Steve Hillage on it (Angel's Egg is also a masterpiece in my opinion). I play in a experimental spacerock (is that a term to connected with Hawkwind?) called Skye Klad, in Minneapolis Mn. There is actually starting to be a fertile scene of experimental music in this area. Such groups like Ousia (ambient Spacemusik ala early Tangerine Dream), Savage Aural Hotbed (Industrial percussion inspired by Kodo and Japanese Taiko percussion), Skye Klad (king crimson on a steady diet of Syd Barret, Aphex Twin, and Egyptian music. We all would like to send you some stuff if you are interested.
-jason of Skye Klad-


From: Brett Laniosh <brett@g4nzk.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Nucleus and Neil Ardley (fwd)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:34:59 +0000 (GMT)

I'm forwarding this message from Geoff Castle (ex-Nucleus keyboard player) to the list as I'm sure it will interest others.

Brett Laniosh Redditch & Bromsgrove CAMRA <http://www.g4nzk.demon.co.uk/>
What's another word for Thesaurus?  

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:06:39 +0000
From: Geoff Castle <castleg@turret.demon.co.uk>
To: brett@g4nzk.demon.co.uk
Subject: Nucleus and Neil Ardley

By sheer chance, not being a regular subscriber to the Canterbury group,
I got your message through UK.  In Flagrante Delicto was recorded at a
great time for Nucleus.  It was unfortunate that it wasn't recorded the
previous two nights when we had plyed at the Quartier Latin in Berlin!
The Duren venue where the album was recorded was  a library room aS
opposed to a large audiorium in Berlin.  Incidentally, there is a
Nucleus and Neil Ardley gig in Birmingham on Thursday 9th April!

Please feel free to repost this email on the Canterbury message board.

Geoff Castle

[I'm sorry I couldn't get this forwarded to WR in time. I hope no one who could have attended the gig missed it ! - AL]


From: nickl@lsil.com (nick loebner)
Subject: Hatfield on CD
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 98 09:31:41 BST

In WR#87, David Kowalski started a thread about all exisiting Hatfield material. I'm not sure that the full picture has been revealed. Apologies for going over some old turf...

Original Vinyl releases:
o Hatfield and the North (lp)
o Let's Eat (Real Soon)/Fitter Stoke has a Bath (single)
o Your Majesty is like a Cream Donut (Incorporating O Wot A Lonely Lifetime)
  (on "V" various artists lp)
o Halfway Between Heaven and Earth
  (on "Over the Rainbow" various artists lp)
o Rotters' Club (lp)
o Afters (compilation lp)

CD Releases:
o Hatfield and the North
o Rotters' Club
o Live 1990

o Along with various tracks from the first two lps, "Afters" incorporates
  the first single (which indeed featured a different version of "Fitter
  Stoke...") and an edit of "Halfway..." and some hitherto unheard live
  tracks: "O Len's Nature" (an anagram and re-working of Phil Miller's
  "Nan True's Hole") and "Lything and Gracing" (aka "Righteous Rhumba").
o The CD release of "Hatfield..." adds the single (A- and B-sides)
o The CD release of "Rooters' Club" adds the live cuts ("Halfway...", "O
  Len's Nature" and Lything ans Gracing")
o Live 1990 is a one-off gig, reformed for a British TV show (sadly
  without Dave Stewart). It's actually a fair set in it's own right and
  (quoth Phil Miller): "the only time Hatfield ever made any money"!

All very interesting I'm sure! In case you haven't been paying attention, the only significant statistic is that there are two pieces of Hatfield material available on vinyl which are yet to appear on CD:-
o Your Majesty is like a Cream Donut (Incorporating O Wot a Lonely Lifetime)
o Halfway Between Heaven and Earth (full version with longer intro)

The intro to "Halfway..." is not essential (just some rambling before Richard kicks off the tune with the familiar bubbling bassline). The alternative version of "Your Majesty..." however is a must for Hatfield fans, featuring Richard Sinclair's lovely tune "O Wot a Lonely Lifetime", unavailable elsewhere.

One last point - Hatfield's albums were released on CD long before most other archive Canterbury material, almost all of which much more popular. If this reveals friends in high places, when are we going to see the official release of Hatfield's fantastic BBC sessions on CD?

Bye for now,
- Nick.
(I get my coat now then, do I?)

[I understand a series of CD's compiled from BBC recordings by Canterbury Artists is in preparation at the moment. More details when available - AL]


From: The Smiths <smithhouse@earthlink.net>
Subject: Rupert Hine and friends...
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 06:29:36 -0800

I know this is a bit off the mark, but not entirely. I recently received a cd copy of Round The Back by Cafe Jacques. Rupert Hine produced, John G. Perry guested on bass (very well, too). Cafe Jacques also had another terrific LP I'm aware of but have yet to see on CD: International.  Then they disappeared.  Anyone know of other recordings involving the members of this band?

I'm crossing my fingers that Quantum Jump's Barracuda and Rupert Hine's solo recordings will be available on CD (again, in some cases). Hine has a Midas touch.  I wonder if being in the USA I'm just not hearing about the availability of these releases on CD.  Any fans out there with word on these?


Kim, Gray & Kent Smith


From: Julian Christou <christou@as.arizona.edu>
Subject: Virtually
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 11:51:07 -0700

Greetings again fellow addicts ...

Well. I just picked up a bunch of Canterbury CD's - some to replace my vinyl and some new releases.  The one I was anxiosly awaiting was the new Cuneiform Soft Machine release "Virtually".  For those not in the know, this was recorded by Radio Bremen back in 1971 and features the classic line-up of Hopper/Dean/ Ratledge/Wyatt.  The CD is almost 77 minutes long and comprises 2 sets (in much the same way the Live In France does).  

The first set features : Facelift / Virtually / Slightly All The Time /Fletcher's Blemish; and the second set features : Neo-Caliban Grides / Out-Bloody-Rageous / Eamonn Andrews / All White / Kings And Queens / Teeth / Pigling Bland

Those with the first BBC in Concert will recognize the medley of the second set as being the same medley but without the augmented sound. This concert has appeared for many years as a bootleg under the name "Old Machine" edited down to a 45 minute length.  Also there is a video clip from this concert floating around and as it was recorded in a film theatre maybe there's more footage available.  Question here to Steve F. at Cuneiform - since you got the audio, is there any chance of a video release?  BTW I'm still waiting for a video relese of the Proms concert but I'm not holding my breath.

The recording quality is very good especially when compared to the bootleg and the band's performance is excellent.  Wonder reworking of old favourites and new tracks.  Nice to hear a live version of Fletcher's Blemish which until now I always thought as a studio track only. Once again, another Soft's version of Neo-Caliban Grides which has me waiting for the promised Cuneiform release of the first Elton Dean album on which there are studio versions of this and Blind Badger by Elton's Just Us augmented by Mike Ratledge and Roy Babbington.  

Comparing this release to the BBC In Concert and Live in France releases shows just how tight this version of the band was. Wyatt's drumming is truly amazing and I think he plays here with more feeling than on the BBC sessions and certainly outshines Marshall. Elton heavily uses Electric piano as on Live In France. Hopper has a wonderful bass solo on Virtually and I think the live versions outshine the studio version. This recording is to me what the Softs were about, i.e. playing live and improving. And Bob does some great vocals too.!!!

I remember when the Wilde Flowers CD came out some people were wondering how many versions of Memories could one have. Well with all the live and radio releases how many versions of Slightly All The time can one have. And they all sound different.

In the past few years we have been very fortunate to have a slew of live Softs which were not available at their heydey, i.e.

At The Paradiso        Hopper/Wyatt/Ratledge
At The Proms        Hopper/Wyatt/Ratledge/Dean
Virtually        Hopper/Wyatt/Ratledge/Dean
BBC In Concert 1    Hopper/Wyatt/Ratledge/Dean + + +
Live In France        Hopper/Ratledge/Dean/Marshall
BBC In Concert 2    Hopper/Ratledge/Marshall/Jenkins

So what else is out there?  Any live recordings with Holdsworth or with Kevin? Any more Third/Fourth vintage?

Also when is the Cuneiform release of Hopper's 1984 due?  I'll have to start saving my penies again.



From: "Irina Mirzuitova" <agharta_nsk@hotmail.com>
Subject: Hello!
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 21:12:21 PST


Your page is so great I couldn't imagine there may be something like that !!!

I only started to browse through all the treasures. There are some people here in Russia who love Canterbury music very much, and we are so glad to find your page at last! God bless you for that necessary work.

All the best,



From: "Irina Mirzuitova" <agharta_nsk@hotmail.com>
Subject: Henry Cow
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 00:58:36 PST

Hello again!

There was one more musician in Henry Cow called Tim Hodgkinson who wasn't included in your list on Henry Cow page. There is some information on him and two photos at Ken Hyder's homepage, a man Tim was working in recent years with.
Also there are some links to other pages including information on Hodgkinson too.
Here's the address:

I don't think Tim Hodgkinson must be respected less that Chris Cutler, at least for his musical activity.

Thank you,


[Thanks for the link. The only reason there isn't more info or links related to Tim Hodgkinson on Calyx is that there's not much of it about... - AL]


From: Henry Potts <henry@bondegezou.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Peter Blegvad Band
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 19:30:28 +0100

Peter Blegvad Band, Purcell Room, Queen Elizabeth Hall (London, UK),
Disastodrome, day 1 / 2.4.98

Peter Blegvad - vocals, electric guitars
John Greaves - bass
Chris Cutler - drums

I caught the first day of Disastodrome and the Peter Blegvad Band: Peter Blegvad, John Greaves and Chris Cutler. With three other acts on as well, they played a fairly short set of Blegvad's more recent material - no Slapp Happy or solo Greaves as we have had before.

It was some years ago when I first saw Blegvad play at the same venue. Then, solo, having not performed for some time, he was an intensely shy figure on stage. The change to this night was dramatic with Blegvad positively strident.

I had only seen Cutler perform very avant-garde pieces before, so it was interesting to see him playing normal music. He loves his cymbals, does Cutler, staying away from the bass sounds, which were so completely dominated by the true star of the show for me, John Greaves. Greaves is simply the best bassist I have seen play. A lightning fast "Special Delivery" demonstrated his technical skill, but, more than that, is simply his presence in the music. It is lost on Blegvad's recorded solo output, so you all with just have to try and catch them live some time to hear what Greaves is like.

Henry Potts, 4.4.98


From: Michael Clare <mykelc@earthlink.net>
Subject: Kevin Ayers San Francisco Gig
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 11:47:29 -0800

Hello Aymeric and all --
As reported last week (thanks Gary and Richard) Kevin's gig in SF has indeed been relocated in time and space. Here are all the relevants:

Kevin Ayers with Mushroom
Sunday May 24, 1998 at 7:00PM
Great American Music Hall
859 O'Farrell St.
San Francisco, Ca. 94109
415 885-0750 / http://www.musichallsf.com

Tickets are $10.00 in advance and $12.00 at the door
Advance tickets will be available via the internet at:
or via fax w/visa/mc at: 415-885-5075

All For Now-
Michael Clare


From: David Layton <davidlayton@earthlink.net>
Subject: Desperation
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 23:46:19 -0700

Hello once again all you Rattlers out there. I don't know if this is the correct place for this kind of message, but here goes anyway. I have just moved down to the LA area in California. I have several friends down here, but they have always considered my taste in music "peculiar." Unfortunately, there is quite a bit of good music that makes its way out here, some of it even Canterbury related. However, I dislike going to gigs by myself.  Therefore if anyone is in the area and interested, especially if there are any feminine WR readers out there (are there any at all?) [This is not purely a pathetic plea for a date,
and I deny all accusations.  Actually, if any of you LA guys out there like prog rock and other oddities, it would be OK with me to "hang out at a gig with me mates"], I have in mind to see some of the following shows:

Roger Hodgson (April 11, The Galaxy; April 15, The House of Blues)
Banned From Utopia - The Frank Zappa All-Stars (April 17, The Cathouse)
John Renbourn (April 24, McCabe's Guitar Shop)
LA Philharmonic - Haydn and Ligeti (April 24-6, Dorothy Chandler
Loreena McKennitt (May 13, Universal Amphitheater)
Moody Blues (May 29-30, The Greek Theater)
Yes & Alan Parsons (July 24, Universal Amphitheater)
Santana (August 13-16, The Greek Theater)


From: mihra@cerbernet.co.uk (Roger Bunn)
Subject: The First Allen Album? for What's Rattling
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:59:17 +0100

Canterbury Music Webski

HEY!!! Aymeric..

I just realised  WHAT  HAVE GOT IN MY possession!!!


Is this The first ever Allen ALBUM...?

Remember I told you I also worked with Daevid Allen in Paris? One of the reasons was that my ex Diana was / is still a friend of two American people, the beautiful blonde Ziska and flautist Loren whom were both living on the Spanish island of Formentera, (sp)? (Although that was not his real name)...

Well, digging through my stuff researching material for my auto-biog I discovered it !!!... Daevid is of course on the album, it must be a very very rare album indeedski huh?

Maybe you (or someone) can enlighten me on this album. It's called "Dreaming the magic of your mana"" and produced by Akashic records

Please publish this in What's Rattling for me,????

And i remember that the Paris gig thats around 1967, was lotsa fun. think i played guitar on that one..

BTW am also sending this to a few of the people on your list and
subbing them to the Mihra list too..

Also i spoke to Roy Babbington (because both he and Mihra are trying to push the UK Govt into the action necessary to equalise a few minor items regarding the more criminal facets of the UK music industry ha) and he said that next time we meet he would run through some special stories of the "Softs" for you.

Also my old buddy Davy Grahm is about to re-release the "All that Moody" album this month which has lotsa me on double bass and I guess we will start to do the odd gig together too.

Would you like to carry news of that?

I've just got to the part in the auto-biog which deals with me, PIBLOKTO, Laurie Allen and Pete Brown, but as yet not finished..

You still want to carry that?

take no prisoners..

again thanks

Roger Bunn

Policy Office
Music Industry Human Rights Association
UK Homepage  http://www.cerbernet.co.uk/mihra

email mihra@styx.cerbernet.co.uk

Mihra was founded during UN50 to advance and protect creators rights in a cultural market monopolised by the six member recording  / publishing Cartel. Mihra's roots are in music and anti-racism and it has called for a sports boycott of both Indonesia and Burma for the Sydney 2000 Olympic Games.


From: Age Rotshuizen <age@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Brian Hopper
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 12:59:49 +0200


There seems to be a Voiceprint CD with Brian Hopper, called 'Beggars' Farm'
- Is it any good? i.e. Better than those dreadful songs with Zobe from the
Wilde Flowers CD...



From: Gary Davis <artshop@artist-shop.com>
Subject: Artist Shop Newsletter (Canterbury Mix)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:41:05 -0400

Hello, folks,

The latest edition of The Artist Shop newsletter is up at <http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm>.  Here's a some excerpts of interest to Canterbury fans.

We have some new labels to welcome to The Artist Shop.  They are ESD and its sister labels, Omnium and NorthSide which you'll find at <http://www.artist-shop.com/esd>.  ESD is an incredible progressive label that features The Residents, Henry Cow, Fred Frith, National Health, Dirk 'Mont' Campbell, Peter Blegvad and Snakefinger - definitely some of progressive music's, and Canterbury's, top practitioners!

To be honest, I'd not really been familiar with either Omnium or NorthSide before I'd spoken to the good folks at ESD.  They described those labels as being world music and Scandinavian roots music respectively and said they would send me some things to check out.  I wasn't really expecting anything too much out of the ordinary.  Boy was I in for a shock!  Although Omnium and NorthSide may have their roots in world music and Scandinavian folk, they kick some serious butt!!!!  And, in fact, could be considered as being extremely progressive!!!  Definitely check out those soundbites!  A couple of the artists I want to make special mention of are Hedningarna and Wimme which I've been listening to repeatedly since I got the package.  Wimme sounds a bit like a meeting between Brian Eno and Chief Sitting Bull - definitely esoteric and a new sound for me!  Hedningarna is something I can't stop listening to!  Try to imagine the cultural heritage of Clannad and the Bulgarian Women's Choir joining forces with the energy of Led Zeppelin - definitely full of Viking blood!  I can't urge you strongly enough to check this out!!!!

While not specifically Canterbury related, this should be of interest to all lovers of progressive music.  Brand new on our IRC Chat schedule is Ian McDonald on Wednesday, April 15.  Many of you will remember Ian as a founding member of King Crimson.  He was the main composer for that first incredible album, In the Court of the Crimson King, and also a multi-instrumentalist handling all sorts of wind instruments and keyboards including the mellotron which played such a key role in the overall sound of that album.  Ian seems to be back in the news lately with the release of DGM's Epitaph CD, an official bootleg of the original King Crimson band, and the forthcoming release of Steve Hackett's Tokyo Tapes.  The Tokyo Tapes are to be released at the end of this month on both CD and video, and is the recording of Hackett's recent Japanese tour which included not only Hackett and McDonald, but also John Wetton, Chester Thompson and Julian Colbeck! The performance includes two classic McDonald compositions, Court of the Crimson King and I Talk to the Wind.  And rumors now abound that Ian is working on a solo album with some very special guest appearances. Definitely something to ask him about in the chat!  Details on the chat are at <http://www.artist-shop.com/irc>.  To find out more about King Crimson's Epitaph, go to <http://www.artist-shop.com/discipln>.  For info on Steve Hackett's Tokyo Tapes, go to <http://www.artist-shop.com/camino>.


                          Gary Davis
The Artist Shop                              The Other Road
http://www.artist-shop.com          artshop@artist-shop.com
phone: 330-929-2056               fax:330-945-4923
       Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at


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[for more info : check out the 'Concerts' page of CALYX - see URL below]

Apr 15 - Ashton-upon-Lymne, Witchwood
Apr 17 - Malvern Fringe, Youth Centre
Apr 18 - Leicester, Physio and Firkin
Apr 20 - Cambridge, Boatrace
Apr 22 - Stoke-on-Trent, Wheatsheaf
Apr 25 - Lewes, All Saints
Apr 26 - Leeds, Duchess of York

Apr 30 - Bethune [near Lille] (France), venue unknown
May  1 - Strasbourg (France), Laiterie
May  2 - Nancy (France), Terminal Export
May  3 - Vitry-le-Francois (France), Cafe Musiques
May  5 - Ploemeur [near Lorient] (France), Oceanis
May  7 - Blois (France), Chateau d'Eau
May  9 - Perpignan (France), Mediator
May 10 - Montpellier (France), Mimi La Sardine
May 11 - Toulouse (France), Bikini
May 12 - Bordeaux (France), Theatre Barbey
May 14 - Paris (France), Bataclan
May 15 - Rennes (France), Salle de la Cite

May 23 - Diss, Norfolk (England), Park Hotel [tel: 0137.985.4206]
May 31 - Utrecht (Netherlands), Tivoli (tbc)
Jul 18 - Kassel (Germany), festival appearance (tbc)

[Daevid Allen-Mark Kramer-Hugh Hopper-Pip Pyle]
Jun 16 - Leeds, Duchess of York
Jun 18 - Ashburton, Lanterns

May 24 - San Francisco (CA), Great American Music Hall [tel: 415.885.0750]
May 29 - Los Angeles (CA), The Gig [11637 W.Pico Bld] [tel: 310.444.9870]

[Peter Blegvad-John Greaves-Chris Cutler]
Jun 12 - Tokyo (Japan), Star Pins Cafe
Jun 13 - Tokyo (Japan), Star Pins Cafe
Jun 14 - Tokyo (Japan), Star Pins Cafe

May 20 - Brighton, The Concorde
May 21 - Ashburton, The Lanterns
May 22 - Southampton, The Gantry
May 23 - Bury, The Met
May 24 - Sheffield, The Board Walk
May 26 - Chester, Tellford House
May 28 - South Shields, The Cellar Club
May 29 - London, The Weavers
May 30 - Basingstoke, Fairfields Arts Centre
Also :
May 16 - Coutances (France), Jazz Sous les Pommiers (Festival)

May  2 - Paris (France), Peniche 'Le Six/Huit'
May  9 - Fontenay-sous-Bois (France), Le Comptoir du Monde
May 19 - Paris (France), Le Cavern
Jun 15 - Paris (France), Peniche 'La Balle Au Bond'
Jun 29 - Paris (France), Duc des Lombards
Sep  3 - Paris (France), Petit Journal Montparnasse
Sep 11 - Paris (France), Le Glaz' Art

Apr 13 - Newhaven, Toads Place
Apr 14 - Philadelphia (Pa), Theatre of Living Arts
Apr 15 - Washington (DC), Birchmere
Apr 17 - Baltimore (Pa), Orion Sound Studios (2 shows)
Apr 18 - New York City (N.Y), Knitting Factory (2 shows)
Apr 19 - Cambridge (Ma), House of Blues

Apr 18-19 - Brest (France) (with François Verret)
May 18 - St. Etienne (France) (with Louis Sclavis/J-P Drouet)
May 29 - Tullins (France), MJC (with Noél Akchoté)
May 30 - Figeac (France) (with Louis Sclavis)

Apr 24 - Rostock (Germany), Zabrik
Apr 25 - Amsterdam (Netherlands), Bimhaus
Apr 26 - Utrecht (Netherlands)
Apr 28 - Unterschleisheim (Germany), Burgerhaus
Apr 30 - Ulrichsberg (Germany), Jazz Atelier
May  1 - Willisau (Switzerland), Rathausbühne
May  2 - Le Mans (France), Jazz Festival
May  4 - Gent (Belgium), Vooruit

May 2 - Tokyo (Japan), Pit-Inn (Shinjuku)
May 3 - Tokyo (Japan), Pit-Inn (Shinjuku)
May 4 - Tokyo (Japan), Pit-Inn (Shinjuku)
May 5 - Tokyo (Japan), Pit-Inn (Shinjuku)

All Sunday nights at The Vortex
[139 Stoke Newington Church St, London N16]
feat. various combinations of the following musicians :
Elton Dean, Jim Dvorak, Paul Dunmall, Simon Picard, George Haslam, Marcio Mattos, Alex Maguire, Liam Genockey...

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