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  ::                     - WHAT'S RATTLIN' ? -                    ::
  ::       The Weekly Digest for Canterbury Music Addicts         ::
  ::                          Issue # 87                          ::
  ::                   Thursday, March 19th, 1998                 ::
  ::                                                              ::


From: Juan Germann <germann@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: Introduction and a thought
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:04:41 +0100

Hi yall,

[Hi !]

This is my first post to the list as a recent subscriber. First of all, I'd like to thank Aymeric and all of you very much for putting all this material together, it's a goldmine of information !

[Yeah, ... we knew that already.  So what do you want ?]

My name is Juan Germann and I'm a german citizen living in the south-west part of France. My musical interests cover a wide range of styles but most of all I'm very into Henry Cow and it's spinoffs/soloprojects and I also enjoy Eno and most of his collaborative work very much...

[Hmm..., Juan - that's not a german name, am I right ?]

I'd like to discover more of all these folks you're talking about, as my canterbury related knowledge is rather limited  - apart from Wyatt's albums, a few Softs, and Caravan's 'Land of grey and pink' (which I discovered only a few weeks ago, at the age of 34 ! )

[That's pretty late, but still...]

BTW, I was just wondering what either Nico's Marble Index would have sound like with a collaboration of, let's say, Fred Frith and Lindsay Cooper, or the Henry Cow/Slapp Happy lineup featuring John Cale (viola) and Nico sharing the vocals with Dagmar. Unfortunately that never happened. Any comments ?

[Well , maybe in another life, who knows ?!  -  you're through now ??]

Bye,-and Aymeric, for god's sake, keep this show on the road!

[He surely will. - See ya !]


[Note : the comments in brackets aren't, of course, mine... - AL]


From: Henry Potts <henry@bondegezou.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Disastodrome
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:43:19 +0000

In WR#86, Aymeric Leroy <bigbang@alpes-net.fr> writes
>Apr  2 - London, Purcell Rooms


I picked up a flyer about this and the Blegvad concert is part of a wider 4-day festival, "Disatodrome", led by Pere Ubu's Paul Thomas. There are a host of events throughout the South Bank Centre from 2-5 April, with involvement from Tim Hodgkinson, Chris Cutler and Peter Hammill among others, ending with a Pere Ubu concert on the Sunday night. There's a web site given at




From: Gabe_Camacho@usccmail.lehman.com (Gabe Camacho)
Subject: Canterbury Dream Label Final Update?
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:50:29 -0500

Following is the current list of releases on the Canterbury Dream label.  
Please contact me offline for any updates/corrections to the list.

This is just being compiled for informational purposes so all of our mouths
can drool in anticipation of eventual re-releases of this material. Many thanks to the kind, anonymous, fellow from Japan who helped fill in
most of what we were missing.

As before, I have no idea where they can be found.  This is being compiled
from 3rd party reports.
Note that all those with 2 catalog #'s are 2 CD sets.

Canterbury Dream Partial Discograqhy:

CTD 001-002- Mike Oldfield        - Just One Night
               EX- | Tokyo, Japan                     5/29/82
CTD 003    - Soft Machine         - Live Bundles
                   | NY, USA                          3/13/74
CTD 004-005- Kevin Ayers          - Songs for Modern Hippies
               EX  | Tokyo, Japan                     6/06/92
CTD 006    - Gong                 - Live Gazeuse!
               VG  | Reading Festival, UK             8/26/76
CTD 007-008- National Health      - Dreams Wide Awake
               VG  |'76 Virgin demo+Bottom Line, NY, USA '79
CTD 009    - National Health      - Public Hygiene
                   | Collegiate Theater              12/17/76
CTD 010    - Hatfield & the North - NbH
                   | Collegiate Theater               4/28/75
CTD 011-012- Bruford              - Confusion
               VG+ | Toad's Place, New Haven, CT, US  7/18/79
CTD 013    - Soft Machine         - Fusion
                   | Reading Festival, UK             '75
CTD 014    - Caravan              - Long Walk Desert
               VG+ | Reading Festival, UK             '75
CTD 015-016- Gong                 - Break Through the Commune
               EX  | 2000 Club, Via Reggio, Italy     4/21/76
CTD 017-018- Kevin Ayers          - Rapt in Thought
               EX  | BBC '72 + London 4/75 + London  10/27/76
CTD 019    - Matching Mole        - Pataphysical Machine
               VG  | Olympia, Paris, France           5/15/72
CTD 020    - This Heat            - Cold Storage
                   | Krefeld, Germany                 '80
CTD 023-024- Kevin Ayers          - Spanish Troubadour
               EX  | Tokyo, Japan                    12/26/88
CTD 025-026- Henry Cow            - Ruins
               EX  | Demos '73 + Hamburg, Germany     3/26/76
CTD 027    - This Heat            - S.P.R. The Last Live 1982
               EX  | London, UK                       '82


From: "Christine M. Cavalier" <ccavalie@emerald.tufts.edu>
Subject: Daevid Allen in US
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:27:29 -0500 (EST)


I noticed that a "David Allen" is playing at the Knitting Factory in NYC
mid-April. Does anyone know:

a)  if this is Daevid Allen
b)  if he is playing elsewhere in the NE US in the near future?

...just got "Dreaming a Dream" and am really enjoying it.

Thanks, Aymeric, for "WR". It is such a pleasure to read. Someday my dream is to visit N. Europe and time the trip to coincide with some great live music.




From: Canterbury Musicians Server <mail@musart.co.uk>
Subject: MASHU TOUR APRIL 1998
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:17:48 +0000

Hi A here's a list so far.

4th April PARIS; Le Pied du Chameau (Assn. Mardi du Monde)
         20 Rue Quincampoix Paris

8th April BRUSSELLES; Travers, 11 Rue Traversiere

9th April LILLE; B-PLAN 17, bis Rue de la Poste, Quatier Moulin

10th April Brittany; Cafe de la Barre,
                 73 Rue de Passage, PLOUHINEC 02-97-36-73-73

11th April; RENNES or BREST (tbc)

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From: "simon.ainley" <simon.ainley@lineone.net>
Subject: 801/Live at Manchester - '77
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:46:23 -0000

Seems the recording of the 801 Manchester gig is available in the shops for £13.99 from Expression Records - and, if you want to have the complete collection of Manzanera output, is a must.  I understand a full review of it will be forthcoming in 'FACELIFT' in the near future.

Speaking of which, the future is in your dream.

Live your dream on May sixteen.



From: Davidkow <Davidkow@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Can't find CD's
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:59:12 EST

I have Rotters Club and Hatfield and the North on CD, does that mean I have all that would be on Afters? (or is there another CD that I've never heard about?)

[The short answer is yes, you have everything. The long answer is, well, not quite, the version of "Halfway Between Heaven And Earth" is said to be slightly longer, but otherwise all the tracks on "After" that weren't on either of the two studio albums have been added as bonus tracks on the Virgin reissues - AL]


From: IChippett <IChippett@aol.com>
Subject: In Cahoots at Montreuil
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 02:10:53 EST

Thanks, Aymeric, for your excellent review of InCa at Compiègne. Did any Rattler get to see them at Montreuil? I couldn't get there because of work commitments but I'd love to know about the gig from any Rattler lucky enough to have been present.

Ian C

[A friend of mine was. He said the setlist was in a slightly different order. Patrice Meyer jammed with them on a couple of pieces on the second set including the closing "Green And Purple". He said the drums a bit too high in the mix and that Phil Miller's facial 'inspiration' was particularly impressive that night... as always, I guess - AL]


From: "Madeleine Parkyn " <envoy@dircon.co.uk>
Subject: Gig news for Henry Cow/Slapp Happy fans
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:44:01 -0000

Dear Rattlers,

Here is information about some gigs at the forthcoming Disastodrome festival, organised by David Thomas (ex-Pere Ubu) at the South Bank in London.

On Thursday 2 April, Peter Blegvad (with Chris Cutler and John Greaves) will finish the evening in the Purcell Room. The preceding acts will be Caligari's Diner, Daved Hild, Jackie Leven (ex-Doll By Doll), and The Kidney Brothers. The whole thing begins at 7.15 pm. Tickets cost L8.00 (concs. L6.00).

On Friday 3 April, Chris Cutler will be among the musicians participating in the Mirror Man extravaganza in the Queen Elizabeth Hall, beginning at 7.45 pm. Others there will include David Thomas, Peter Hammill and Linda Thompson. Tickets cost L12.00 (concs, L10.00).

I believe (but please do check) that before this event there will be a free foyer performance by Tim Hodgkinson and Ken Hyder.

Box Office: 0171-960 4242. There is also a Disastodrome website:

See you there?

Best wishes,

Martin Haggerty.


From: Jeffrey Taschner <taschner@ksc.th.com>
Subject: Steps
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:16:45 -0800

Aymeric--Hi. Jeff Taschner ('exhiled' American musician living in Bangkok) Great site and service. Thanks loads for keeping this community of kindred spirits together. You should add 'Steps' to your discography. This is keyboardist Steve Franklin's group from sometime around 1976-77. The group featured Hanny Rowe on bass and Roy Dodds on drums, and a sax player whose name I can't recall on baritone and sopranino saxes. The interplay between sax and Franklin's Wurlitzer EP is great.

The album was recorded in France and I believe was released on Parlophone, although I'm not so sure about the label. It has great cover art (Malaysian artist who did Jon Hassel's 'Dream Theory...' LP cover). More importantly, the music is outstanding. Very much in the Soft Machine tradition. As Franklin has played with Phil Miller, you can probably contact him directly for more information and (hopefully) a copy of the record or a tape.

If you cannot locate the record, I can send you a tape. Really a must- have! (LP's back in Milwaukee, where my former bandmates backed Richard Sinclair back in '89 or '90--but I have a good quality cassette which I can dupe for you. Check with Steve first.)

Cheers and best of luck!

Jeff Taschner


From: <552982@pnet.energia.co.jp>
Subject: Japanese Nightmare
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:41:26 +0900

Hallo! Aymeric and Rattlers,

These are more details on Canterbury Dreams = Japanese Nightmare.....
They seems to have been active through'93 to'95 here in Japan = The kingdom of Bootleggers.

CTD001/002 ; unknown but maybe M.Oldfield's Live in Japan
(There must be some datas on this set somewhere in my room. But he is out of my interest. Sorry!)

   003     ; SoftMachine / Live Bundles (Live in Syracuse,N.Y. 13/3/'74)

   004/005 ; K.Ayers / Song For Modern Hippies (Live in Tokyo 6/6/'92
                       + 4 versions from his rare EP
                       + 8 versions from his Spanish LP Deja Vu)

   006     ; Gong / Live Gazeuse! (Live at Reading Fes. 26/8/'76)

   013     ; SoftMachine / Fusion (Live at Reading Fes. '75)

   017/018 ; K.Ayers / Rapt in Thought (2CD set)

   020     ; This Heat / Cold Storage (Live in Krefeld,Germany '80)

   021/022 ; unknown but maybe another M.Oldfield's Live in Japan

   023/024 ; K.Ayers / Spanish Troubadour (no datas on the Jacket)

   025/026 ; HenryCow / Ruins (Demos'73 + NDRJazzWorkshopHamburg 26/3/'76)

   027     ; This Heat / S.P.Q.R. The Last Live 1982 (Live in London'82)

   028     ; This Heat / Tago Mago (with Mario Boyer Diekuuroh
                                    + 3 versions from their 12"EP)

Ah! Collector's obsession makes me bury in such a disgusting work... I think you Good Rattlers are able to get allmost all the materials by tape-trade/exchenge. Is it right?

And one more small data on Egg's first album on CD.

I have the CD titled Egg Featuring Dave Stewart (DERAM844168-2 reissued CD from Decca UK, but made in Germany '92) with two additional tracks from their EP ; Seven In A Jolly Good Time (2:44) / You Are All Princes (3:44) originally issued on 29/8/'69. (Attention! Japanese edition of this reissued CD is easy to get but has NO bonus tracks.)

Everybody, wake up from your nightmare and go to get regal must-items!

                          Peace from Hiroshima,
       by Koro Ito (Tony Coe's Coe + Keith Rowe's Rowe, Hahahaha...)


From: Age Rotshuizen <age@xs4all.nl>
Subject: New Ayers - new Dean/Hopper
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:25:36 +0100 (MET)


I've just purchased the new discs by Ayers & Dean/Hopper. Ayers' Garden of
Love isn't the long awaited latest solo-album, but a short concert - 20 min.
-  recorded by the BBC Radio, from 1970 with the Whole World feat. Robert
Wyatt, accompanied by five other musicians and six beautiful girls. After
first hearing it sounds a bit messy. Released by Blueprint.

Also a Blueprint release: the Dean/Hopper CD called The Mind in the Trees.
Great music; sounds a bit like Soft Heap's first or Cruel But Fair. The
other musicians are Vince Clarke (once - or still? - in Polite Force) and
Frances Knight,

Age Rotshuizen


visit my homepage at: http://www.xs4all.nl/~age/
visit the Canterbury Top 50 at:http://www.xs4all.nl/~age/top100.html
visit the complete Robert Wyatt discography


From: drj_saro <drj_saro@neo.lrun.com>
Subject: kneel!
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 21:36:18    

Some time ago I seem to remember someone posting that "Neil's Heavy Concept Album" was coming out on CD. I have not been able to find it anywhere, and that's a bummer, man! Was I hallucinating, or can someone provide me with more info?


From: Benoit Dufresne <bdufresne@pandora.electricite.ge.hydro.qc.ca>
Subject: Subscribe to Whats Rattlin
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:47:15 -0500

Im happy to subscribe to What's Rattlin? !

By the way, can you tell me where I can get (order) the book "Wrong Movement" ?

Benoit Dufresne


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*               FORTHCOMING CANTERBURY-RELATED CONCERTS                 *
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[for more info : check out the 'Concerts' page of CALYX - see URL below]

Mar 25 - London (England), The Heathcote [0181.988.0011]

Apr  4 - Paris (France), Le Pied du Chameau [20 Rue Quincampoix]
Apr  8 - Brussels (Belgium), Travers [11 Rue Traversiere]
Apr  9 - Lille (France), B Plan [17, bis Rue de la Poste, Quartier Moulin]
Apr 10 - Plouhinec, Bretagne (France), Cafe de la Barre [73 Rue de Passage]
Apr 11 - Rennes (France), venue unknown (tbc)

Apr 30 - Bethune [near Lille] (France), venue unknown
May  1 - Strasbourg (France), Laiterie
May  2 - Nancy (France), Terminal Export
May  5 - Ploemur [near Lorient] (France), Oceanis
May  7 - Blois (France), Chateau d'Eau
May  9 - Perpignan (France), Mediator
May 11 - Toulouse (France), Bikini
May 12 - Bordeaux (France), Theatre Barbey
May 14 - Paris (France), Bataclan
May 15 - Rennes (France), Salle de la Cite

May 23 - Norfolk (England), Park Hotel Diss

May 23 - San Francisco (CA), Bottom Of The Hill [1233 17th St]
May 29 - Los Angeles (CA), The Gig [11637 W.Pico Bld] [tel: 310.444.9870]

Apr 13 - Newhaven, Toads Place
Apr 14 - Philadelphia (Pa), Theatre of Living Arts
Apr 15 - Washington (DC), Birchmere
Apr 17 - Baltimore (Pa), Orion Sound Studios (2 shows)
Apr 18 - New York City (N.Y), Knitting Factory (2 shows)
Apr 19 - Cambridge (Ma), House of Blues

Mar 19 - Chesterfield (UK), Attic
Mar 21 - Newcastle (UK), Cumberland Arms

Apr 24 - Rostock (Germany), Zabrik
Apr 25 - Amsterdam (Netherlands), Bimhaus
Apr 26 - Utrecht (Netherlands)
Apr 28 - Unterschleisheim (Germany), Burgerhaus
Apr 30 - Ulrichsberg (Germany), Jazz Atelier
May  1 - Willisau (Switzerland), Rathausbühne
May  2 - Le Mans (France), Jazz Festival
May  4 - Gent (Belgium), Vooruit

Mar 25-28 - Rennes (France) (with François Verret)
Mar 29 - Karlsruhe (D), Blockflöte (solo)
Apr 18-19 - Brest (France) (with François Verret)
May 18 - St. Etienne (France) (with Louis Sclavis/J-P Drouet)
May 29 - Tullins (France), MJC (with Noél Akchoté)
May 30 - Figeac (France) (with Louis Sclavis)

Apr  2 - London, Purcell Rooms

Mar 20 - Tullins (near Grenoble) (France), MJC du Pays de Tullins [21h]

Mar 21 - Grenoble (France), FNAC [12h30] [Folks - Dunmall/Rogers duo]
Mar 24 - Grenoble (France), Le Cargo [18h30]

All Sunday nights at The Vortex
[139 Stoke Newington Church St, London N16]
feat. various combinations of the following musicians :
Elton Dean, Jim Dvorak, Paul Dunmall, Simon Picard, George Haslam, Marcio Mattos, Alex Maguire, Liam Genockey...

Jul 11 - Canterbury (line-up tba - possibly Caravan, Kevin Ayers, Miller-Baker...)

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