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  ::                     - WHAT'S RATTLIN' ? -                    ::
  ::       The Weekly Digest for Canterbury Music Addicts         ::
  ::                          Issue # 84                          ::
  ::                 Monday, February 16th, 1998                  ::
  ::                                                              ::


From: admin@musart.co.uk (Canterbury Musicians Server)
Subject : Mark Kramer - Brainville
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 08:23:44 GMT

Hi Aymeric....
>From the Musart Noticeboard..... <http://www.musart.co.uk/noticbd.htm>

   Mark Kramer (the bongwater guru)
                has e-mailed us many times about his latest project;
                  it will feature Hugh Hopper, Daevid Allen & Pip Pyle
                                   .......He's now calling it 'BRAINVILLE'

   Gig list from Keith Missile soon......

The tour is planned for the spring; at the moment.
But Keith tells us that (in theory) its now pretty definate.
           http://musart.co.uk/   (www)


From: Andy Murkin <Andy@weasels.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Hatfield bootleg CD
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:22:13 +0100

>From: "Arthur Ramos Jr." <aramos@sunyorange.edu>
>Subject: Hatfield & The North - NbH
>Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 16:22:05 -0800
>I found a CD in a used CD bin at a local record store called:
>        NbH (Live in Collagiate Theatre April 28, 1975)
>by Hatfield & The North.

I was amazed to read this, as I too had never heard of it (It must be a bootleg), and was actually at this gig.  The Collegiate Theatre is part of the college I was at in London, and I was at the time living 100 yards away, in a college-owned house.  Only time in my life I shall ever be able to afford to live in Bloomsbury!  Imagine - your favourite band  comes to play a gig in the capital and it's 100 yards from your front door - wonderful!  As I recall, they played all the favourites, including Robert Wyatt's 'Godsong', which wasn't on any of their 3 official albums.  On the wall behind me as  I write is a poster of the front of 'Rotters Club' which was, until I left the hall, part of an advertisement for the album, then recently released.

I was also very sorry to read of Lindsay Cooper's illness.  At around the same time as the above I saw her play when Henry Cow and Robert Wyatt were doing gigs together.  When I saw them, it was at the New London Theatre, Drury Lane, bits of which appeared on Henry Cow's double 'Concerts' album. The part I remember most was Robert Wyatt's 'Muddy Mouth/Mouse' bits from 'Ruth Is Stranger Than Richard'.  I don't know if this had been released at that time, but I didn't know it at the time.

Andy Murkin


From: Strong Comet <cometail@netvision.net.il>
Subject: Wyatt NEW web-site
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 01:13:34 +0200

Hi Aymeric and fellow rattlers,,

I Hope this finds you well.

It is with my great pleasure and excitement to announce the new and much improved Wyatt site at the address below :


It's very much like the old one I used to run, but this one looks better, better arranged, and takes less time to download.

The first bulk of files was uploaded this Saturday, and I will continue after I've returned from my holiday.
The site hasn't been registered yet in all major search engines, so you're one of the first to see it, and I hope you'll like it.

I'd love to hear any comments you might have...

Best Regards,

Strong Comet
Eterni-Tea Time Web Site


From: Ofir Zwebner <ofirz@magenta.co.il>
Subject: Camel Web Page - a new design (?)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:41:08 +0200


I've got a new design for my Camel web pages - It's not final and not complete yet, but I'd appreciate your comments about it:


Only the "Welcome" and the "Discography" section. The new page will
[eventually] include a guestbook, a Camel survey and the option of leaving
your e-mail and getting updated with news.

Also, I'm concerning a change of name, after all "The Camel Discography and
FAQ" isn't such a bright name for a site... A few things I had in mind:

    1. "Fingertips" (it's a pretty song, but I don't like that "Stationary
Traveller" album... and I find it as remote from my favourite Camels as possible. On the otherhand - it relates to 'Data at your Fingertips')

    2. "Earthrise"

    3. First Light

    4. Skylines (check out the site design!)

I'd appreciate your comments.

    Ofir Zwebner

From: Age Rotshuizen <age@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Disastodrome feat. Blegvad, Cutler & Greaves
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 17:15:20 +0100 (CET)

This came in from Ubu Communex 2698, it might be of interest for Blegvad, Cutler & Greaves fans:

>In 1976 John Thompson & David Thomas refined the notion of datapanik: that
>a state of data overload exists in which information will only function as
>a sedative-like drug; a dependent culture is inevitable in which nothing
>can be true; and that tv weathermen must be ruthlessly disappeared if
>there's to be any hope of avoiding a nightmare future. Well, you didn't
>listen, did you? Just like when Eisenhower tried to explain it to you with
>small words & a patient voice that an interstate road system has nothing to
>do with getting somewhere and everything to do with poetry and the
>metaphysics of time. You thought you knew it all.
>The antidote is Disastodrome: a state in which the ordinary citizen can be
>freed from the burden of anticipation that drives the data-junkie. We call
>it disasto so NOTHING can go wrong. We can absolutely guarantee it. No
>weak-willed "probably" required. Nothing will go wrong. Dynamite the bridge
>to the future. Now.
>Questions Are a Burden to others.
>Answers a prison to oneself.
>At the South Bank in London. The South Bank is the complex of concert
>venues attached to the Royal Festival Hall on the south bank of the Thames.
>It's England's largest arts complex.
>The booking office is at 0171-960-4242 and tickets are on sale as of
>Monday, Feb 9th. Orders are taken in the usual way. From outside the UK you
>will first dial the international access code, then 44-171-960-4242.
>Booking information can be found at the Royal Festival Hall web site,
>http://www.sbc.org.uk/book.htm but they aren't set up for web sales, just
>Free Festival Guide: 0171-921-0734 (ansaphone)
>Series Offer (tickets for all four events): £34  with concessions at £28.
>Pricings for individual events are as below.
>For more details see http://www.projex.demon.co.uk/disasto.html
>Thursday, April 2nd, Caligari's Diner
>Purcell Room
>An evening at Caligari's Diner opens the Disastodrome! series. Daved Hild
>records with avant garde boss Kramer and Tom Waits alumni Ralph Carney.
>"Jackie Leven is one of the really great soul voices of our times." (VOX).
>The Kidney Brothers, the core of the legendary 15-60-75, keep the blues
>alive as a radical, visionary and living force. The night ends with Peter
>Blegvad, whose Andy Partridge produced Naked Shakespeare album was a
>critical smash. He is joined by Chris Cutler and John Greaves, former Henry
>Cow/Slapp Happy buddies.
>For three of the four days of the Disastodrome! experience the foyer will
>be customized by the unflappable Johnny Dromette (inspired by Bob's
>Barricades, Jacksonville FL) and will host Simon Lucas' talking computers
>as well as inter-cultural improvisers Tim Hodgkinson & Ken Hyder. For
>tonight only they'll be joined by neo-beat poet Bob Holman adding a voice
>of doom from the outer limits, and David Thomas cooking blackened burgers
>inside a haze of vaporized chili smoke.
>Tickets: £8  Concessions: £6
>Friday, April 3rd, Mirror Man
>Queen Elizabeth Hall
>Loosely based on Edgar Lee Masters' Spoon River Anthology, this is a
>musical extravaganza turned over to poets, singers and musicians, and
>directed by Pere Ubu founder David Thomas, a performer "so alive to the
>possibilities of motion and chance in a word or phrase that any given song
>will be less a song than a road, a road out or a road back." (Greil Marcus)
>Linda Thompson, partner to Richard in masterpieces such as Shoot Out The
>Lights, joins a cast with neo-beat poet Bob Holman, Jackie Leven, Robert
>Kidney and Daved Hild (see 2 April). Peter Hammill (Van Der Graaf
>Generator) adds his own passionate fury to a pit orchestra worthy of the
>event: Andy Diagram (ex-James), Keith Moliné, Jack Kidney, and Chris Cutler
>(Henry Cow).
>Characters: David Thomas, Linda Thompson, Bob Holman, Jackie Leven, Robert
>Kidney, Daved Hild & Jane Bom-Bane.
>Orchestra: Andy Diagram, Keith Moliné, Peter Hammill, Chris Cutler, & Jack
>Foyer events as described above.
>Tickets: £12  Concessions: £10
>Saturday, April 4th, Datapanik In The Year Zero
>Feared for his iconoclastic vision, David Thomas dares to argue above the
>din of conformity. Catch the U.K. premiere of his performance "lecture,"
>The Geography of Sound in The Magnetic Age, with the chance to ask the
>great man the big questions. Bob Holman, a star in "Poetry's Pantheon" (New
>York Times),  reads the works that have put him up there with Ginsberg.
>Jane Bom-Bane brings her harmonium and fish bowl hat and aims to break your
>No foyer events tonight.
>Tickets: £8  Concessions: £6
>Sunday, April 5th, Custodians of the Avant-Garage
>Queen Elizabeth Hall
>Doll By Doll
>Pere Ubu
>A double-bill that brings together two of the most fiery bands of the last
>twenty years. Doll By Doll's R&B and Celtic tinged music is "some of the
>most passionate, violent and disturbing rock and roll ever." (VOX) Pere Ubu
>have become a benchmark for cult with critical hosannas at every turn. They
>have influenced a generation, and the story continues with their new album
>called PENNSYLVANIA, released by Cooking Vinyl in March. The good DON'T die
>Foyer events as described above.
>Tickets: £12  Concessions: £10


From: Julian Christou <christou@as.arizona.edu>
Subject: Wyatt Triviaphiles
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 09:56:52 -0700

Greetings again fellow Rattlers.

It seems that Wyatt must be headind for the big time.  Last week, here
in the USA, there was a 5 minute review of "Shleep" on National Public
Radio's "All Things Considered".  Nothing really new for most of us
Wyatt fans but there was a quite a bit of airply from the new album, OK
20 sec. cut, and references to his loyal following across the world and
that this was his first album in 6 years.  Also mentioned of course was
his UK hits "I'm a Believer" and of course "Shipbuilding".  Good to hear

Secondly, my wife and I went to see the new Alan Rudolph file
"Afterglow" with Julie Christie with weekend.  Interestingly enough in
the Acknowledgements was listed a certain Alfieda Benge.  There were
some paintings in some of the scenes which in retrospect could well have
been hers.  I know that there is a long standing friendship between
Wyatt and Christie so it's not really surpring.  Does anyone have more



From: admin@musart.co.uk (Canterbury Musicians Server)
Subject: Lindsay Cooper Appeal
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:01:14 GMT

Hi Rattles!

We wrote a couple of weeks ago that Lindsay Cooper has Multiple Sclerocis.
We now have a statement on the Musart Server.

        < http://www.musart.co.uk/org/cooper/ >

There is a forwarding address for her....

        c/o Adventure films, Blackbird yard, London E2

For people to send messages of support and offers of help to. However should
you want to donate cash, use the [NEXT PAGE] link on the webpage for a form
to print out; with all the bank details. We will try to keep you all
informed of her progress.

ps. Lady June arrives from Majorca; at Musart on Sunday next to finish off
her parts on REBELA < http://www.musart.co.uk/ladyju2.htm >


From: Richard Derrick <normdeplume@megabytecoffee.com>
Subject: Kevin Ayers in California
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 22:57:46 -0800


I'm working on putting together a mini-tour for Kevin Ayers in California in
late May.  We're still waiting for confirmation of plane reservations, after
which I suppose Jo Gielen will put the info on Kevin's website.  In the
meantime, I can tell you this much: only two shows will be happening (Los
Angeles and San Francisco).  The SF show is scheduled for the weekend of May
22/23 at Bottom Of The Hill - more info on that when the date is confirmed,
as the guy in SF is also waiting for confirmation of plane flights.  The LA
show is scheduled for Friday, 29 May 97 at The Gig, 11637 West Pico
Boulevard, West Los Angeles.  Phone is 310 444 9870.  Tickets are $12 and
will be available through TicketMaster at some point.  We have full backing
bands assembled in both cities.

I'll keep you posted of any further developments.  In the meantime, my own
homepage is at



From: "Len Kemp" <Len_Kemp@email.msn.com>
Subject: Richard Coughlan
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 20:33:02 -0000

I hope you don't mind me mailing you from your link on the CALYX site. I'm
told that Richard Coughlan (Drummer, Caravan as I'm sure you know) now runs
a pub in Ashford. Not sure if this is Ashford, Kent or Middlesex, or which
pub it is. Would you know by any chance?



[AFAIK, Richard Coughlan is currently running "The Sun Inn" in Faversham. It's said to be near the town centre. He did use to have a pub in Ashford, "The Castle", but that was several years ago - AL]


From : Pip Pyle <no e-mail yet>
Subject : Season greetings
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 20:14:06 +0000

Dear Aymeric and Big Bang Theorists,

1997 was a long long year so I had to start 1998 on
the 31st February
but if you've kicked off already

HAPPY (REST OF) 1998 full of smiles and
memorable moments

In any case
if time is only relative is it related to my old Aunt Grace?
how long is some enchanted evening? how short
was your finest hour?
or a piece of string?
is eternity preferable to february?
what is the difference between having
good time or *a* good time?
is good time something that bad american drummers don't got?
with which organ do you gauge time by?
is a minute arbitrary
or can you measure it with an egg?
is never better than late?

in haste
so no time to lose la trek
but if you've nothing better to do this year
In Cahoots are doing some gigs in France as a 4tet
Phil Miller gtr, Pete Lemer keys, Freddy Baker bass, Pip Pyle drums
and may be seen at these alledged venues and dates

Friday March 6th Theatre de l'Abattoir, Lillers
Saturday March 7th Compiegne
Tuesday March 10th Espace Julien, Marseille
Wedsneday March 11th Instants Chavires, Montreuil (Paris)
and will play for exactly 1hour 53mins whatever that means.

love peace and quiet



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*               FORTHCOMING CANTERBURY-RELATED CONCERTS                 *
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[for more info : check out the 'Concerts' page of CALYX - see URL below]

Mar  6 - Lillers, Theatre de l'Abattoir
Mar  7 - Compiegne
Mar 10 - Marseille, Espace Julien
Mar 11 - Montreuil, Instants Chavires

Feb 17 - Tilburg (Netherlands), Noorderligt
Feb 24 - Bolzano (Italy), Auditorium Roen
Feb 25 - Ferrara (Italy), Circolo Renfe
Feb 26 - Padova (Italy), La Fornace
Feb 27 - Forli (Italy), Naima Club
Feb 28 - Ascoli Piceno (Italy), Cotton Club
Mar  1 - Todi (Perugia) (Italy), Teatro Communale
Mar  2 - Firenze (Italy), Sala Vanni
Mar  3 - Gorizia (Italy), Auditorium Regione

Feb 17 - Stuttgart (Germany), Musik des Jahrhunderts
Apr 24 - Rostock (Germany), Zabrik
Apr 25 - Amsterdam (Netherlands), Bimhaus
Apr 26 - Utrecht (Netherlands)
Apr 28 - Unterschleisheim (Germany), Burgerhaus
Apr 30 - Ulrichsberg (Germany), Jazz Atelier
May  1 - Willisau (Switzerland), Rathausbühne
May  2 - Le Mans (France), Jazz Festival
May  4 - Gent (Belgium), Vooruit

Feb 18 - Paris (France), Laboratoires (with Iva Bittovà)
Feb 19 - Paris (France), Laboratoires (with Keith Rowe)
Feb 20 - Lyon/Oullins (France) (with Louis Sclavis/J-P Drouet)
Mar 15 - Munich (D), Café Ruffini (solo)
Mar 18 - Paris (France), Laboratoires d'Aubervilliers (with Tom Cora)
Mar 19 - Paris (France), Laboratoires d'Aubervilliers (with T.Cora/C.Cutler)
Mar 25-28 - Rennes (France) (with François Verret)
Mar 29 - Karlsruhe (D), Blockflöte (solo)
Apr 18-19 - Brest (France) (with François Verret)
May 18 - St. Etienne (France) (with Louis Sclavis/J-P Drouet)
May 29 - Tullins (France), MJC (with Noél Akchoté)
May 30 - Figeac (France) (with Louis Sclavis)

Apr  2 - London, Purcell Rooms

France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Sweden - Apr/May (tba)

Jul 11 - Canterbury (tba)

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