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  ::       The Weekly Digest for Canterbury Music Addicts         ::
  ::                          Issue # 77                          ::
  ::                 Saturday, December 20th, 1997                ::
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Hello everyone,

Sorry for the delay in bringing this issue to you. I'd like to wish all subcribers a merry Christmas and happy new year.
Just a word : it seems several of you didn't get the latest issues of WR in their entirety. Please let me know if this happened. Just check that the issue ends with the usual gigs list and links.


From: Robert Hampton LeGrand III <rhl0940@cs.tamu.edu>
Subject: Canterbury newcomer
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 13:01:56 -0600 (CST)

Howdy!  I am new to Canterbury music and would like some recommendations.
Here is what I have so far:

Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink
Gong - You
Hatfield and the North - The Rotters' Club
Soft Machine - Third
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom

I love them all.  Where should I go now?  Please send your recommendations of must-have Canterbury albums to robl@tamu.edu.  Also, if you'd like to see what else I listen to and what is on my current wish list, go to <http://http.tamu.edu/~rhl0940/music.html>.  Thanks for your help.

Rob LeGrand III


From: "Mr. Dingle" <electricelf@loop.com>
Subject: camembert electrique
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 00:27:19 -0800

Hello.  I thought you ay enjoy my layout of the camembert electrique lyric book.  It's at

Electric Elf


From: MHolmes822 <MHolmes822@aol.com>
Subject: Canterbury Festival Update
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 17:15:41 EST

I have just been informed by Pye Hastings that the date is now set for the
11th July 1998.

All the best
Malcolm HTD Records


From: Koro Ito <552982@pnet.energia.co.jp>
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 17:28:46 +0900

This year East-West JAPAN started their prog-rock reissue program named RE-BIRTH COLLECTION. It's first series were items like Renaissance or Curved Air etc. And now they announced the upcoming second line-ups (Dec.25 in stores) including our welcoming Neil's Heavy Concept Album under the Japanese title CANTERBURY PARTY!

Mr.Dave Stewart refered to this albums CD reissue (East-West 4509-94852-2) on his Web-site. To my regret, I cannnot find this imported item yet here in Hiroshima. So this'll be a good Xmas present for me.

       Listen to CANTERBURY PARTY at your X'mas party!

     ....All you Need's Heavy Concept Album! Hahahaha....


From: GENE1000X <GENE1000X@aol.com>
Subject: virgin discography
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 23:14:11 EST


I am very glad to see that someone has gone through and catalogued
all this useful information regarding these Canterbury groups. It is very
difficult for me, as a 23 year old american, to find anything out about these
people  and I have previously had to rely on the residual twenty year old
memories of acid-burnouts in used record stores for what often turned out to
be limited or spurious information.

I have two questions for you, though:

1)  Do any of these people ever tour the US?  If so, please give me the dates
etc. [this man is obviously new to WR - I've already e-mailed him back with details of how it works - AL]

2)  Has anyone ever compiled a complete list of the Virgin catalogue during
their progressive years?  I would think that would be an invaluable resource
in the search for new groups (well, new groups to me) since they appear to
have released only good music.

Thanks for your help,


From: Brett Laniosh <brett@g4nzk.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Nucleus
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 18:30:45 +0000 (GMT)

[In WR#76, Geoff Castle wrote:]
> As ex-keyboard player with Nucleus please accept my thanks for
> mentioning my name in connection with Trevor Thompkins work with Neil
> Ardley.  I am attaching my own web page details and I shall include a
> link to the Canterbury site in my recommended links,

I really miss Nucleus. I've only seem them twice, the first time was not long after the release of Out of the Long Dark which means you were playing with them Geoff I guess. I also saw them about 5-8 years ago when John Marshall had re-joined for the tour. Unfortunately it was a one off tour I think. My favourite album was In Flagranti Delicto which features you Geoff!

Brett Laniosh   Redditch & Bromsgrove CAMRA          Acorn User
<mailto:brett@g4nzk.demon.co.uk> <http://www.g4nzk.demon.co.uk/>
An oblique strategy - Think of the radio


From: Age Rotshuizen <age@xs4all.nl>
Subject: WR: l'Equipe Out
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 17:54:47 +0100 (MET)

Is the first album by l'Equipe Out & Pip Pyle released on CD?


[No. The label it was on apparently went bankrupt, and it seems nobody's had the courage yet to solve the legal situation in order to reissue it on CD - AL]


From: Thijs Jostmeijer <jostm@netland.nl>
Subject: WR#75
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 21:31:14 +0100

Bonjour Aymeric,

I am a long term reader of WR and just take this opportunity to thank you for all nrs of WR which I got and to say that I really appreciate your job. Please go on.
I want to say to you that I didn't got WR 75 for one reason or another. Pls send it to me again, but maybe I am not the only one, I do not know.

Merci  beaucoup
best regards,
Thijs Jostmeijer /Pays Bas

[Apparently, several people didn't receive this issue. Please e-mail me if you didn't, and I'll probably send it out again to everyone if it appears that it was the case with more than just a few subscribers - AL]


From: Age Rotshuizen <age@xs4all.nl>
Subject: David Thomas
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 15:27:04 +0100 (MET)

This just came in from the Ubu Projex:

>The South Bank is the largest arts complex in London. They have
>commissioned David Thomas to host a 4-day mini-meltdown festival in April
>1998. This year Laurie Anderson did one. Last year Elvis Costello. Clearly
>something has gone wrong in their thinking for 1998 but who are we to
>The event is called DISASTODROME. Why? Well... we call it Disastodrome so
>NOTHING can go wrong.
>The schedule of events is as follows (subject to refinement).
>THURSDAY APRIL 2 - Purcell Room:
>Peter Blegvad (with Chris Cutler & John Greaves)
>The Kidney Brothers (Numbers Band)
>Jackie Leven
>Daved Hild
>FRIDAY APRIL 3 - Queen Elizabeth Hall
>Pere Ubu
>Special Guest
>SATURDAY APRIL 4 - Chelsfield Room
>The Geography of Sound, a lecture by David Thomas
>SUNDAY APRIL 5 - Queen Elizabeth Hall
>Premiere of Mirror Man, a theatrical piece written by David Thomas
>Musicians: Andy Diagram, Peter Hammill, Chris Cutler, Keith Moline
>Singers: Linda Thompson, Robert Kidney, Bob Holman, Daved Hild, Jane
>Bom-Bane, David Thomas
>4-Day ambience from Tim Hodgkinson and Ken Hyder. Multimedia installation:
>Simon Lucas. More details will be appearing at the Ubu Projex web site

>The David Thomas box set, MONSTER, is released on Cooking Vinyl in the UK
>and the rest of the world, and on Tim/Kerr in the US/Canada. It's a 5-cd
>box with a 16 page full-color booklet. The package design is by John
>Between 1981 and 1987 Pere Ubu's David Thomas recorded five studio albums
>with the likes of Richard Thompson, Chris Cutler, Lindsay Cooper, Anton
>Fier, Philip Moxham, Garo Yellin, Allen Ravenstine, Daved Hild, Jim Jones &
>Tony Maimone. The last of these, Blame The Messenger (1987), led directly
>to the reactivation of the Pere Ubu projex and is generally considered to
>be part of the Ubu canon. Sound of The Sand (1981) and Variations On A
>Theme (1983) hang on the guitar playing of Richard Thompson. More Places
>Forever (1985) represents Mr Thomas's trio & quartet projex, and for the
>box is doubled up with Monster Walks The Winter Lake (1986), the album Mr
>Thomas still considers his masterpiece and his most personal recording.

Another 2 percent (?),



From: Aymeric Leroy <bigbang@alpes-net.fr>
Subject: In Cahoots - British tour
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 8:39:44 +0000

I've had no report yet from fans of In Cahoots' recent British tour. But I've recently been in touch with Peter Lemer, keyboard player in said band, who besides agreeing to do an e-mail interview in a future issue, commented as follows : "Not too bad. Gates were poor in Hull and Leeds. Jon Hiseman has just come back from Colosseum tour & he says gates are down all over Europe".

On the subject of interviews, those I did with John Etheridge and Dek Messecar in London in october have yet to be transcripted. One with Patrice Lemoine is underway, thanks to a friend of his who has kindly accepted to work on it.



From: Geoff Castle <geoff@turret.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Nucleus
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 19:50:47 +0000

Dear Aymeric
Thanks for your reply. As requested I am in the process of putting down a few memories of the Nucleus albums I've been involved with. I'm not really in regular touch with former Nuclues members although I have bumped into Ian Carr occasionallty round the scene.  I had a fax from tenor player Brian Smith who now lives in New Zealand as also does Roger Sellers who was playing drums for most of the time I was with the band - 1974-1981?

The keyboard player Dave McRae now lives in Sydney Australia and will be appearing at Ronnie Scott's in January with his wife, singer Joy Yates. A concert has been booked involving several ex-Nucleus players performing Neil Ardley's Kaleidoscope of Rainbows on the 9th April 98 at the Adrian Boult hall in Birmingham.

I shall send more information when I have time.

PS. Just a got a Xmas card from Ian today.

Geoff Castle


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