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  ::       The Weekly Digest for Canterbury Music Addicts         ::
  ::                         Issue # 116                          ::
  ::                  Sunday, January 6th, 1999                   ::
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From: c cutler <cc@megacorp.u-net.com>
Subject: Internationale/Egg
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 18:04:39 +0000

hi couple fast answers

* Robert Wyatt.  The Internationale.

yes it is that the communist Internationale and first appeared on our
Recommended Sampler

* Polite Force by EGG
if you still have trouble we have japanese copies at megacorp@dial.pipex.com

rer central
Chris Cutler
79 Beulah Rd. Thornton Heath
Surrey CR7 8JG. UK.
Fax 181 771 3138


From: Martin Wakeling <marwak@globalnet.co.uk>
Subject: Kevin Ayers
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 20:28:34 +0000

Kevin Ayers fanzine 'Why Are We Sleeping' issue 11 is now out and has been
dispatched to the band of faithful who managed to stay awake.  A small
number of copies remain, packed as ever with news, scandal (honest!) and
opinion. Reviews of USA activity, Dr Dream years explored, interview with
Starvin Marvin, archive releases, special mashed banana colour cover. Don't
delay, order now before the ink fades  - email marwak@globalnet.co.uk


From: "Anatole Gordon" <agordon@ashra.engr.sgi.com>
Subject: Kennedy
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:49:18 -0800

Hi Aymeric,

Caught the Kennedy show here in Saratoga, Calif., a few weeks back. Needless to say, John Etheridge and even a few other band members were quite blown away when I pulled out my copy of 'Triple Echo' for signing. John was a very nice person who was genuinely grateful that someone from as far away as California knew of his musical contributions.

In other news, my wife Lydia and I are flying to the UK this April for some hiking in the Lake District and Wales, and to catch a few of the upcoming Porcupine Tree gigs. If you hear of any other good bands, such as Caravan, playing (in the UK) between April 4-22, please let me know. I'll keep checking the upcoming gigs section of future issues of WR, too.

Thanks again and take care.



From: Julian Christou <christou@as.arizona.edu>
Subject: Various responses etc.
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 14:24:35 -0700

Happy NEW Year to all you Rattlers ...

Firstly for Pat regarding Working Week. "Working Nights" is I think their best album although "Paycheck" is very good also but it is a compilation. The Wyatt track in the original single version of "Venceneremos" which also has Tracey Thorn singing on it (later to be with Ben Watt in Everything but The Girl whose first album also has a distinctly jazzy sound as well.  Also Wyatt contributed to Ben Watt's "Summer into Winter" EP now on his "North Marine Drive" CD. Also featured on "paycheck" is the single "Storm of Light" with Julie Driscoll/Tippetts. A beautiful piece. If possible also check out the 12" single which features some great organ work by Mike Carr. Keith Tippett also contributes to WW as well.

Also, there was a spin-off project called "Weekend" who relaesed a number of single and a live EP as well and an album as well. KT also contributes on a live EP track.

Secondly for Jim Powers, the 90's Canterbury recordings which really blew me away were

Robert Wyatt - "Shleep"
Jon Greaves - "Songs"
Hopper/Kramer - "A Remark Hugh Made"
Elton Dean's Newsense

to mention the top 4 on my list.

Thirdly, Good to hear about the Nucleus gigs.  Rumour has it that these gigs (or some of them will be recorded) with a live CD to come out later this year.

Among my recent Xmas acquisitions were

Kevin Ayers - "Banana Follies" -

A wonderful BBC broadcast of the famous "variety show" with Archie Legget, David Bedford, Lol Coxhill.  Pity none of the Wyatt and Malherbe appearances ever made it onto tape (or did they?)  The Ayers music is just great, on a par with the Kevin and Archibald BBC sessions. This release and the "In Concert" double set on HuX capture Ayers at (IMHO) best.  But they beg the question of when the obscure single tracks (especially the Island ones) will ever see CD light of day. Why "The Up Song" was not included on the re-release of "Dr. Dream" from BGO escapes me. In fact, the early Ayer's albums could be re-released with the singles as bonus tracks (including of course most of the "Odd Dities" album).  Any chance of this.  There were also the Radio London (or was it Capitol) b'casts with Brian Eno at the time of the Lady June release.

Caravan - "Songs from Oblivion Fisherman"

Great Title!  Some wonderful playing from the first incarnation of the band as well as the "For Girls .." period. Dave Sinclair in fine form and a wonderful version of "Love Song with a Flute" except without the flute. I sort of remember seeing them on Top of the Pops back in 1970 and although those tracks are mono they are definitely worthwhile. Now, if only the earlier BBC "In Concert" sessions would ever see the light of day.

And talking of the BBC recordings. There was an apperance by Robert Wyatt on TOTP in 1974? I believe I saw it. There was also a BBC TOTP compilation album which featured "I'm a Believer" by the man himself which I presume was a BBC recording.  Is that true? Or am I misremembering this as I never see this recording listed in any discography. If it really is a different version (and not the Peel session version) then how different is it to the Virgin single?  Also any chance of a complete Wyatt BBC sessions CD being released. I don't believe that the Strange Fruit/DEA EP is still in print and there's the Monkman sessions still to see the light of an official release.

anyway, enough rattling for now.



From: Brett Laniosh <brett@g4nzk.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Gongish
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 22:42:27 +0000 (GMT)

I haven't read anything about Ozric Tentacles here.

They sound more like Gong (You, Shamal, Gazeuze! era) than anything else I've heard.

Brett Laniosh


From: m.laplante@videotron.ca (m. laplante)
Subject: Robert Wyatt
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 09:20:50 -0500 (EST)

[Tony Rizzo <trizzo@javanet.com> wrote:]
>I have a question I was hoping you might be able to help me with.
>I'm not familiar with the work of Robert Wyatt. On the CD Going Back A Bit
>there's a song The Internationale. Is that the communist Internationale?

As far as I know, yes.

>From the song titles it looks like he does a lot of protest/social
>commentary material and I enjoy that type of music very much.

He was member of the British Communist Party (and probably still is)

Martin, from Montreal.


From: HTD Records <MHolmes822@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:36:42 EST

Hi All
I am writing regarding Jim's last letter on Caravan. I feel I must disagree
with his views on All Over You being the most dated album. I can see what you
mean Jim with bands re-recording old material and this is so often done in a
bad and messy way by just one original member who wants to make a fast buck
under the bands name. All Over You was concieved by the original members (Bar
One) who wanted to  have the chance to re-record their favourite songs and
show just how great they could sound using 90's technology. The album was
produced by Julian Hastings (Pye's son) who is making a name for himself in
the music biz by producing and engineering some of the top modern acts on the
British scene at the moment. I think the result was incredible with an album
that I feel is definately in my top ten albums.

What do others feel?

Indeed most people I have spoken to agree what a radical album it is and when
you get to the second half it just blows you away with a wall of sound.

What's more the sales have been so good Pye has asked if he can do a second album along these lines and we have just O.K.'d this. Keep posted to WR, we'll keep you posted and you'll be the first to know more.

Have a great new year from me and all at HTD Records


From: Julian Christou <christou@as.arizona.edu>
Subject: Soft Machine at the Beeb
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:31:28 -0700

Over the weekend, I'd been catching up on the BBC releases, i.e.

BBC In Concert 1
BBC In Concert 2
The Peel Sessions
Live at the Proms

And revisited they still sound very very good especially the In Concert 1 which is one of my favourite of the live albums mainly because of the expanded horn section.  Anyway, I have a question to the cogniscenti, The In Concert disc is only 48min and as the In concert series were typically 60 mins, what happened to the other 10 minutes?

Also on the Peel Sessions disc there are no musicians listed. For the first of the 2 CD's the information is given in the "Triple Echoes" set but for the second there is no info.  Judging by the dates, it would appear that Phil Howard is playing drums on "Neo Caliban Grides", "Drop" and "As If" if they're the ones from November 1971.  Also from which recording session does Wyatt's "Dedicated to you ..." come from?

And the the Proms concert, I believe that the Video no longer exists, is that right?

I was also listening to "Virtually" as well.  A wonderful radio concert.  Are there any more Canterbury related Radio Bremen concerts which could be released?  Steve F.  has done a great job of digging this out as well as the Elton Dean/Just Us tracks on the recent Cuneiform release. I've heard through thr rumour mill that a Gong concert was b'cast by Radio Bremen as well.  Any others and any chance of these appearing on CD?



From: Mark Bloch <markb@echonyc.com>
Subject: Internationale/Soft Machine
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:08:48 -0500 (EST)

About Robert Wyatt's "Internationale":

There are indeed English lyrics to the well-known communist fight song on that Wyatt disc but I don't know if they are the "original" ones. Probably. I doubt Wyatt would rewrite them the way he did with Hugh Hopper's songs. It says written by Eugene Poitter amd seems to come from the public domain. (Copyright Control is what it says. I think thats what they say for published works whose copyrights have expired. Although perhaps this particular song was never "owned" by anyone????)

I recommend that compilation of Wyatt stuff. It's really a nice collection.

By the way, someone mentioned Soft Machine 2 recently. I have to agree it is one of the finest Canterbury records ever. The finest RECORDS ever. I finally broke down and bought the SM 1 and 2 package on CD (a good deal). Alas - it is admitting that I fear I may never crank up my turntable again. This was an end to that denial.... Anyway, both those records 1 and 2- are extraordinary. Time has STILL not caught up with what they were doing there, in my opinion. It's 30 years later and they are STILL ahead of their time. Also many thanks to Aymeric or whomever put the lyrics on the web site. After all these years it is fun to hear what they were singing about at last. Listening along with the lyrics is a fun treat for us fans. What weird lyrics they were. That's part of their innovation. And who knew that As Long As He Lies Perfectly Still was all about Kevin! I can't believe it!

[I have to thank everyone who helped with these transcriptions. And speaking of "As Long...", apparently there is still a number of mistakes or approximations in the transcription. Help is welcome! - AL]


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Jan 21 - Paris (France), Theatre Dunois

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[Barbara Thompson/Billy Thompson/Peter Lemer/Paul Westwood/Jon Hiseman]
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Feb 11 - Gent (Netherlands), Vooruit
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