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:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: :: :: - WHAT'S RATTLIN' ? - :: :: The Weekly Digest for Canterbury Music Addicts :: :: Issue # 58 :: :: Wednesday, June 25th, 1997 :: :: :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Spencer <captainquad@earthlink.net> Subject: machines, soft Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 22:37:59 -0400 Hi, Just viewed part of the Calyx site, very extensive, well-written & packed with info. etc. I notice that the discography seems to be limited to CD releases, so this note is not exactly an addition, but the Soft Machine actually did release more than one single, of sorts. Probe saw fit to extract "A Certain Kind" for a 45, which, naturally, did not hit. However, their two albums for the label seem to have sold pretty well (at least two printings on each plus a two-fer repackage) which was probably helped considerably by their '68 American tour(speaking of which, none of those dates were recorded, were they?) Probe also used "ACK" on a sampler called "the Command Revolution" which I've also seen quite a few copies of, so the machine got plenty of exposure in 1969 if, probably, no further 45s. Considering their compositional bent toward long improvisation, this makesperfect sense, but I certainly can't blame ABC for trying. Thanks for a nice site. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Age Rotshuizen <age@xs4all.nl>Subject: Essential Canterbury albums not yet on CD revisited Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 18:49:09 +0200 (MET DST) Hello Rattlers, I've been digging in the archives of this digest & found a start for a list of 'essential' albums not yet available on CD (Delivery's 'Fool's Meeting', the first Caravan, a Random Hold record, Tippett's 'You are here...'). And how about: * The Coxhill/Miller records on Caroline?* All the Dean solo efforts, especially the one on CBS & the Ogun recordings?* The first Soft Machine single (Love makes sweet music/Feelin' Reelin' Squeelin')? * The Dave McRae- era Nucleus? * Odd Ditties? Some albums have been released on CD but they're still hard to get, like 1984 (We're waiting, Cuneinform...), Egg's first two records (both only available as Japanese import), Isotope's Deep End, Nucleus' Solar Plexus. And of course, there's the unreleased stuff, like Wyatt's Drury Concert '74 & a whole lot of BBC recordings (Hatfield, Caravan, More Softs, National Health) And this is just the top of the iceberg! Age, Amsterdam [Egg's first album is (or at least has been) available as a British pressing with two bonus tracks since 1992. The first Caravan album is out on CD since last Autumn on HTD Records. Some of the CD's you mention were released on the German Line label, who have apparently gone bankrupt... Let's hope the whole Nucleus back-catalogue will eventually be reissued ! - AL] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David G. Shaw" <david@belm.com> Subject: Re: Genesis of Brand X Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:44:19 -0400 I thought Brand X was an offshoot of the recording sessions for Eno's "Another Green World" and "Before and After Science," which brought Collins and Jones together. Pert and Robinson didn't appear on a Brand X record until "Masque" - the third, if I'm not mistaken. [You're not mistaken - AL] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: neato@pipeline.com Subject: being t Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:58:36 -0400 (EDT) neato says:great interview aymeric and tim..great questions and nice well thought out detailed responses...one thing though- >A : My first jam with Pierre was frustrating - I came from a background of>funk, soul and rock, whereas Pierre's schooling was still heavily>influenced by his classical education. I remember playing The Band to him>and telling him I thought Robbie Robertson was one of the greatest drummers>ever. Pierre definitely thought I was a bit crazy, no wonder, since levon helm (and occasionally richard manuel) were the drummers in the band.. robbie robertson played guitar..haha cheers all my mistakes were once acts of genius neato@pipeline com [well pointed out, neato... but you made a mistake (or rather an "act of genius"...) : the interviewee is mike, not tim... - al] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Rutten <Eric.Rutten@irisa.fr> Subject: Gary Windo's "His Master's Bones" Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:27:08 +0200 Hi there in WR-land, I recently bought Gary Windo's "His Master's Bones", mostly because it was said to feature Robert Wyatt. It actually does, but only on a track ("Is this the time?") which happens to be the same recording as the song on the sampler (Flotsam Jetsam") with a resembling title ("Now is the time"). The only diffewrence seems to be a slightly better sound quality. Otherwise, the CD is nice; I particularly like his moments with Carla Bley. Eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: r.pyatt1@genie.com Subject: egg/scope Date: Thu, 19 Jun 97 00:21:00 GMT Hello fellow Rattlers. Sorry I've been lurking for a long while. Two questions I hope someone can answer. First, other than Civil Surface and Polite Force, are there any other Egg albums/Cds?[Yes - the eponymous debut album, which was reissued by Deram in 1992 with the two songs from Egg's 1969 single as bonus tracks - AL] Second: Has anyone ever heard a band called Scope? I think they were/are from Holland. Years ago, WCVT in Towson Md. played what I assume is their second effort, Scope II. Fortunately, I had the tape running. Very nice jazzy sound, similar to the Softs on 5 or Gong instrumental. Some outstanding flute, Rhodes and guitar work, no vocals though. I have searched for years, but have never been able to find anything else by or about them. Unrelated by useful info: Other Music, 15 E. 4th Street, NY, NY is a GREAT source of Canterbury stuff. As a matter of fact, they seem to have rubbed off on the Tower outlet across the street. Planning a visit to Newport Hosptial, Rudy ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Age Rotshuizen <age@xs4all.nl> Subject: Egg-liner notes Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 22:12:09 +0200 (CEST) Hello, I've bought The Polite Force the other day, but unfortunately Stewart'sliner-notes are in Japanese. Is there anyone who possesses them (preferablyas computerfile) & can send them to me? (I've already asked Aymeric, becausethey once were on Calyx, but since his computer crashed, they're gone). Age, Amsterdam [What Age is asking is actually whether any of you downloaded the DS autobiography that was originally on CALYX before Dave asked me to remove it. If someone has it, please Cc it to me as well, thanks - AL] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jacques van den Oever <jvdoever@worldonline.nl> Subject: Canterbury music in Harlingen Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 08:56:40 +0200 (MET DST) Hi Rattlers, At the moment we are going through a period of transition here. Richard Sinclair is thinking of living in the vicinity & subsequently writing and recording new music. Of course it is not easy to make such a big move for Rich and Heather. Just consider the enormous loads of stuff two persons gather in a lifetime. So a lot of organizing has to be carried out before things are definite. Besides that nothing much in life is very definite especially if your name is Richard Sinclair. We have reformed our local band PLEEGZUSTERS and are now working with a new drummer and keyboard player. Whenever Rich is around he joins us to play guitar and sometimes bass. This gives him an opportunity to develop new songs and us to learn a lot from him. Because PLEEGZUSTERS used to play quite different music than the specific Canterbury sound (e.g. Zappaesque blues or jazzy rock tunes) Richard struggles to adapt too and plays along with some of our repertoire. In the beginning it was really hard to tune into each other. Teatse Vogelaar (bass) used to say it is like Richard speaking Russian and the PLEEGZUSTERS Chinese (or whatever incomparable languages). Anyway we have some indication that the combination will be good someday. You Rattlers would be surprised to hear Richy play blues solo's! Anyway our aim is NOT for Richard to adapt to us (a bunch of lousy amateurs) but for us to try and grab some of that Canterbury magic. Eventually we're supposed to gig around a little in the neighbourhood and later we'd like to record a CD with Richard. He claims his head is bursting with new songs and we think it's true. We like to provide opportunities for him to let them come out and be played by a real band. Our job is to keep him happy & happenin'. He's such a nice geezer to have around. Stay tuned everybody! Jacques ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PatEmin@aol.com Subject: Vinyl for sale Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 16:43:03 -0400 (EDT) For sale Jazz, Rock and Canterbury LPs (incl. National Health, Hatfield, Soft Machine, Caravan, Allan Holdsworth, Camel, Gong, Steve Hillage, Egg, Bill Bruford, Soft Head...). From 3 to 5 pounds, or to swap with videos. Write to Gilbert Cragnolini, 40 rue de la mairie 56570 Locqmiquelic (France). ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Age Rotshuizen <age@xs4all.nl> Subject: Gilgamesh re-release Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:35:00 +0200 (MET DST) I've bought the MOJO with the Soft Machine article. Great story! In an advertisement I found that the first album of Gilgamesh is re-released (EMI-CACD2007) in mid-price! (8 pound 50). On the same page (134, GFT - Progressive Rock Specialists, Canterbury) I saw a CD-release of Quiet Sun's Mainstream. Gilgamesh is available by mail-order in England. I found it in the catalogue of Pastel for 8 pound 88: http://www.demon.co.uk/pastel/audio.html Age ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daelken@aol.com Subject: Pierre Bensusan Mailing List Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 10:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Pierre is now running the e-mail list himself! The new e-mail address is: pbsusan@wanadoo.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Gallivan <joe@newjazz.com> Subject: who else Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 19:38:24 -1000 I feel a little left out-----------------just saw your site and everyonewas there except you know who-------------------Hopper, Dean , Tippetand Gallivan was a very important band which played very good andoriginal music inspite of us--------Also Elton and I recorded 2 CD'sduring the last 5 years ; Innocence and The Origin of Man which along with much other information you will find on myweb-site-----------------Still Peace and Love-------------------I am notout of any loop -----------------I was in England for 2 weeks last month----------------Joe Gallivan -- Joe Gallivan Alicia Bay Laurel newjazz.com records http://www.newjazz.com P.O. Box 2237, Kihei, HI 96753 USA Phone and Fax: (808) 875-2895 [I hope to do an interview & profile with Joe in the near future - AL] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CuneiWay@aol.com Subject: Hopper & Softs news Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 09:07:56 -0400 (EDT) Hello This is to officially announce that Cuneiform Records will reissue HughHopper's "1984" in mid to late 1998 (Cuneiform Rune 104). This issue will betaken directly from the master tapes, which are in our possession, & willhave a bonus track added - "Miniluv Reprise", which was recorded at theoriginal "1984" sessions & has never been heard before. Hugh has also contributed new liner notes, which tell about the inception behind & the creation of "1984". Maybe best of all, [at least for Hugh!] is that this is a fully authorizedrelease, & Hugh will be receiving all monies due him from 1984's sales. In addition, we are extremely pleased to announce the imminent release of"Virtually", a never-before heard live Soft Machine album recorded in Bremen3/23/71. This features the "classic" quartet line-up of Elton, Mike, Hugh &Robert on one of their last tours. IMHO, this is one of the very best liveperformances from the 70/71 lineup of the Softs. Special note should be madeof the fact that Robert's drums are well miked & he plays in rare form thatyou don't normally hear from him so late in the game with the Softs. "Virtually" (Cuneiform Rune 100) is currently slated for a late January, 1998 release. The track listing is as follows: Facelift Virtually Slightly All The Time Fletcher's Blemish Neo-Caliban Grides Out-Bloody-Rageous Eamonn Andrews All White Kings & Queens Teeth Pigling Bland We also have other "Canterbury" type projects in various stages of fruitionthat we can not reveal yet, but will keep you informed when all contracts are signed & these projects become "sure things". Thank you for your indulgence Steve F. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** FORTHCOMING CANTERBURY-RELATED CONCERTS ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * [for more info : check out the 'Concerts' page of CALYX - see URL below] PIERRE BENSUSAN/DIDIER MALHERBE DUO - EUROPEAN DATES Jul 5-8 - Santo Tirso (Portugal) [details tbc] HADOUK - BELGIAN DATE [Didier Malherbe/Loy Ehrlich] Aug 02 - Dranouter, Folk Festival (Ypres) (Belgium) PETER BARDENS' MIRAGE - EUROPEAN TOUR [Peter Bardens-Steve Adams-Desha Dunnahoe-Dave Cohen] Sep 18 - Alkmaar (Holland), Atlantis [tel : 072 5518390] Sep 19 - Breda (Holland), Para [tel : 076 5218676] Sep 20 - Uden (Holland), De Nieuwe Pul [tel : 041 3265091] Sep 21 - Ververs (Belgium), Spirit Of '66 Sep 25 - Norwich (UK), The Waterfront [tel : 01603 662144]Sep 26 - Ashton-Under-Lyne (UK), The Witchwood [tel : 0161 3440321]Sep 27 - Rotherham (UK), Herringthorpe Leisure Centre [tel : 01709 702575] Sep 28 - London (UK), Astoria [tel : 0171 434 9592] CARAVAN & KEVIN AYERS Sep 19 - London (UK), Astoria SHORT WAVE - FRENCH DATES [Phil Miller-Didier Malherbe-Hugh Hopper-Pip Pyle]Sep 19 - Boulogne-sur-Mer (62), Cabaret Sam [Tel. 03 21 87 32 69] Sep 20 - Bethune (62), Le Poche * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * END OF ISSUE #58 _________________________________________________________________________WHAT'S RATTLIN' ? - WHAT'S RATTLIN' ? - WHAT'S RATTLIN' ?_________________________________________________________________________ CALYX - The Canterbury Website http://www.alpes-net.fr/~bigbang/calyx.html THE ULTIMATE ONLINE CANTERBURY DISCOGRAPHY http://www.alpes-net.fr/~bigbang/cantdisco.html WHAT'S RATTLIN' ? 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