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:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: :: :: - WHAT'S RATTLIN' ? - :: :: The Weekly Digest for Canterbury Music Addicts :: :: Issue # 122 :: :: Tuesday, March 23rd, 1999 :: :: :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shawn Ahearn" <sgahear@ibm.net> Subject: Gong at Progfest'99 Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 17:31:06 +0900 Greetings, Big announcement as Gong added to Progressive Music festival in San Francisco May 29-30 with more dates to follow. www.pangeamusic.com for updated news/ Please review and forward info. Thanx pangea Music ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonmaggers@aol.com Subject: Many thanks for WR 120/1 Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 12:41:46 EST I am a recent subscriber but have gained a great pleasure from your mailings and bulletins I was asked last week if I had any knowledge of a Wyatt composition "Night of a thousand soft toys". Sorry, no I dont know of this recording but I am still picking through the olde gravel and archives to find the odd n of those halcyon days in Canterbury.I remember Softs at Mothers in Birmingham and Hatfields in BRUM ?72/73 WITH A QUITE WITHERING PERFORMANCE does anyone else recall that evening in BIRMINGHAM Town Hall. Also and around this time Henry Cow and Capt Beefheart played at Birmingham Town Hall, anyone remember or was it just too hot on the night. I also recall an Amon Duul concert in the same year when all the synths packed up and going to see The Third Ear Band during the first Miners strike and only 17 people were presennt, I am not sure if this was anything to do with the extradorinary outpourings of the band, the inclement weather or the posibility that the band were just hype and shite. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Christou <christou@as.arizona.edu> Subject: Assagai Date: Thu, 15 Mar 1999 13:13:31 -0700 Slightly off topic here but I'm looking for CD re-releases by Assagai. Does anybody know of any? For the unitiated Assagai were Louis Moholo, Dudu Pukwana, Mongezi Feza and Fred Coker with others (some of these are familar names to Canterbury listeners). To my knowledge (and from Terry Hounsome's Rock Record), there were two official releases, "Assigai" on the Vertigo label from 1971 released in both Europe and the US & "Zimbabwe" on the Philips label from 1972 which I do not think had a US release. There are also a couple of budget label releases (from the Philips/Phonogram stable) credited to the same band name; "Assagai" on Contour and "Afrorock" on Sounds Superb. I have vinyl copies of the Vertigo "Assagai" release and the "Afrorock" release, none of the tracks are identical. Does anyone have a tracklisting for the other two? Thanks in advance Julian ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco Arienti <arienti@nevib.it> Subject: Trades Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1999 18:06:37 +0100 Hi everybody, I'm Marco writing from Tuscany, ItalyI was wondering if someone could be interested in cd's or tapes trade to expand mine (and yours) collection. I don't have too much Canterbury material but owna large collection of jazz, jazz-rock, ethnical and also music from the past centuries so maybe you'll find something you like on my list, oh, any suggestion about Canterbury scene will be appreciate, I'm looking in particular for live recordings. Please reply privately. ciao Marco ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: policy.office@mihra.org (Roger Bunn) Subject: What's Rattling Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:51:39 +0000 Hi What's Rattlers Some creators attached to this list ask the question : how do I stop people from ripping off my music? For the answer to that question, one could do no worse that look at the Big Boys. BRANSON My old hometown drummer friend Barry Thornley was once the manager of the "One Stop Records" retail chain... Island Record's retail outlet which was later taken over by "Our Price" and then with a severe loss of "Our Price" staff, by Richard Branson's Virgin Records. From Thornley's vivid industrial recollections.. It seems that Richard Branson made his early fortune this way. He would buy import albums in the UK at a cheaper rate, saying that they were in turn to be exported abroad. He would then take a couple of boxes on a day trip over to France to get documentation. Then he would sneak them back into the UK, to be sold at fullrates without tax, without documentation and without knowledge of a Conservative government which now in opposition, still fawn upon his "abilities" But did the musicians get paid? Maybe that's why some of us are comparitively happy that another old pal of mine once built a ramp and drove his old car up up and away and into Branson's swimming pool. Would someone else like to make a similar comment? Rr Music Industry Human Rights Association http://www.mihra.org / policy.office@mihra.org US Satellite http://www.212.net Mihra was founded during UN50 to advance and protect creators rights in a cultural market monopolised by the recording / publishing Grand Cartel. Mihra's roots are in music and anti-racism and it has called for a sports boycott of Burma for the Sydney 2000 Olympic Games. UK webhosting donated by http://www.cerbernet US webhosting donated by http://www.212.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: policy.office@mihra.org (Roger Bunn) Subject: A Short Interview with Laurie Allan Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 19:15:36 +0000 These are the replies of Lol Allan.. Q: ...Beginnings... ? A: Born February 19th, 1943 - London. Began playing drums at age 12.Influences: Elvin Jones, Ed Blackwell, Billy Higgins, Roy Haines Q: Your beginnings on the music scene in the late 60s were very eclectic - folk with Roy Harper, jazz with Chris McGregor, rock with Piblokto and Formerly Fat Harry... What was the reason for that ?A: This was the EARLY 60s... McGregor was with Roger [Bunn] on bass Q: Did you consciously try to play in as many styles as possible ? A: No, just work Q: This being said, do you consider yourself primarily as a jazz drummer ? A: Yes Q: In 1968, you were in the Gunter Hampel trio with John MacLaughlin. Was it then that you first met Daevid Allen ? Allen has told the story of his band (Bananamoon) and Hampel's group sharing a rehearsal room in Avignon in the Summer of '68, but didn't mention you.A: I worked with Gunther often. Occasionally with Roger on bass. Yes, I met Daevid in France in Avignon... That was where we met. John was there too. Q: In 1971 you replaced Pip Pyle in Delivery. How did you first get in contact with them ? A: I knew the late Steve Miller.. Q: This period of the band's existence is sadly undocumented. What are your memories of the band's music ?A: I can't really remember. I only did it occasionally. Just work. Roy Babbington was in that band, with Carol Grimes Q: How do you account for its early split ? A: I don't account.. Q: Later on Delivery evolved into another band, DC & The MBs. Although not mentioned in the name you were, I understand, in that band too. Do you have particular memories of that ?A: I remember going to Holland with Lol Cox. That was a package deal. For some record company.. Lol, cleaned his teeth on a street corner. Q: You joined and quit Gong several times... You replaced Pip Pyle (again!), then played on "Flying Teapot", rejoined later for that fateful tour in late '74...A: Yes. In late 74 I got busted. Strasbourg, going to Germany. We all got busted. same night as Ali knocked out Foreman. "Sign this piece of paper, and we will release you"... I was issued with a Proces Verbal. Never been back to France since that day That drug bust was a turning point in my career Q: Any particular memories of Gong ? A: YES!!! I never got paid for any of the records Q: Was it in any way uncomfortable to "replace" Robert Wyatt on the two albums you did with him - "Rock Bottom" and "Ruth..." ?A: No, very comfortable... And I was very flattered by him employing me. Q: Your performance on both albums is particularly well suited to the music, did you consciously adapt your playing to fit Robert's way ?A: Yes and no... You play the music for the music's sake, whatever is required. Q: After 1975, you did a lot of work with Peter Lemer...A: Yes. There were loads of them, I worked with Pete through the 70s. But for many of us jazz musicians, including Roger, this was the beginning of the end of the possiblities of earning a living from jazz in the UK... The young jazz musicians of today are not faced with such problems. You should consider a focus on the work I did with Roger, which was part of the Little Theatre Club and Ronnie's Old Place set up. Q: what have you been up to in the last... well, twenty years !?! Still playing music to any extent ? Where ?A: In the 80s I went back to school and updated my education. I then started studying musicianship / harmony / theory etc. Then nothing. I don't do gigs any more. Now, Roger and I would both like to get back on stage and play jazz. But how can we do so?? Laurie Allan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nicolivetto@itanet.it Subject: Steve Hillage the producer Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:35:26 +0000 Hello, I am a big fan of Steve Hillage.I know he stopped his solocareer in the 80s to make some production. Can someone tell me what records he produced?He produced records by Simple Minds and It Bites, I think. Any others ? Thanks. Nico ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonmaggers@aol.com Subject: Caravan rarity Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 11:15:47 EST Dear Whats Rattlin In a record fair in Wantage U.K. today 21st March 1999 I came across a cd entitled Caravan sings Van Morrison recorded live in Belgium 26th March 1985. The label is Great Live Records GLR9242. It is certainly the lads from Canterbury on a not perfect recording, but does anyone out there have any additional information on this curio? Regards and best wishes to fellow Rattlers ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caron Keenes <sugarshack@netcom.co.uk> Subject: CARAVAN GIG: June 12th, Norfolk UK Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:08:00 -0100 Dear Americ, I would appreciate it if you could add details of the forthcomingCARAVAN gig, booked for June 12th, in Norfolk. Following the hugesuccess of last year's gig at The Park Hotel in Diss, we have managed to get them for a return gig!! Venue is still to be finalised, but it will either be at The Park again, or at Harleston, (just a few miles down the road!). Sorry its so vague, but I've only just got the date confirmed this evening with Ralph Cross. I will let you know final details in the next few days. Further details can be found on our web site: http://business.netcom.co.uk/sugarshack/default.htm Thanks Ron Keenes SugarShack Promotions ------------------------------------------------------------------------- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** FORTHCOMING CANTERBURY-RELATED CONCERTS ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * [for more info : check out the 'Concerts' page of CALYX] http://www.alpes-net.fr/~bigbang/concerts.html ==> CARAVAN <============================================================ [P.Hastings-G.Richardson-D.Sinclair-R.Coughlan J.Leverton-D.Boyle-S.Bentall] Jun 12 - Norfolk (details tba) ==> GONG <=============================================================== [D.Allen-G.Smyth-T.Travis-M.Hewins-M.Howlett-P.Moerlen] * EUROPE -------- Confirmed dates: May 02 - Verviers (Belgium), Spirit of '66 [info: 87-352-424] May 03 - Hamburg (Germany), Fabrik [info: 40-3910-7121] May 04 - Berlin (Germany), Pfefferberg [info: 30-7809-980]May 05 - Wuppertal (Germany), Haus der Jugend Barmen [info: 202-563-644] May 06 - Karlsruhe (Germany), Substage [info: 721-377-274]May 07 - Frankfurt (Germany), U-Bahn/Miquelallee [info: 69-239-918] May 08 - Munich (Germany), tbc [info: 221-723-324] May 11 - Vienna (Austria), Szenewien [info: 221-723-324] Dates to be arranged: May 12-13 - Austria (2 more dates) May 14-19 - N.Italy/SE France (4/5 dates in total) * U.S.A./MEXICO/JAPAN --------------------- These are only possibilites at the moment: May 26 - Wheaton (MD), Phantasmagoria [near Washington DC] May 27 - New York City (NY), Knitting FactoryMay 29 - San Francisco (CA), Palace of Fine Arts [Progfest'99] Jun 02 - Los Angeles (CA), House of Blues Jun 03 - Mexico City, Festival [double header with Magma] Jun 15/19 - Korea (tba) Jun 20/28 - Japan (tba) ==> BRAINVILLE <========================================================= [D.Allen-M.Kramer-H.Hopper-P.Pyle] UK and European dates in June ?The debut album by Brainville will be called "The Children’s Crusade" and will be released Knitting Factory Records on May 18th. ==> DAEVID ALLEN - SOLO DATES <========================================== * U.S.A. Apr 10 - Baltimore, Orion Sound Studios, 2903 Wittington Ave [with support Fingerpaint] (8pm)Info: 410-646-7334 (after 2pm EST) or <alvin@ProgRock.net> * U.K. Apr 18 - Leeds, Duchess of York Apr 21 - Stoke-on-Trent, Riddles Music Bar Apr 22 - Cheltenham, Axiom Centre (tbc)Apr 25 - Exeter, Cavern (possibly also a live Internet broadcast)Apr 30 - Israel [with Graham Clark] info: <multi-m@internet-zahav.net> and more t.b.a. - check for updates ==> DIDIER MALHERBE <==================================================== May 09 - Bethune (France), Retrospective Concert 79-99 [info: 03.21.64.37.37.10] Didier Malherbe may guest on some French dates of the Gong tour !He will also appear as guest for the series of concerts by Brigitte Fontaine at Paris' Theatre du Trianon, April 12-17. ==> TIM BLAKE <========================================================== Apr 06 - Hulzen, Centauri Electronic Music Festival Info : <quantumproductions@wxs.nl> / phone: 035.52.65.635. http://home.wxs.nl/~quantumproductions ==> PLANET GONG (HERE & NOW + DAEVID ALLEN) <============================ Apr 16 - Cheltenham, Axiom Arts Centre ==> MAGICK BROTHERS (D.ALLEN/G.CLARK/M.ROBSON) <========================= Aug/Sep - dates in the UK & Ireland (tbc) ==> GRAHAM CLARK / ISTHMUS <============================================= Apr 16 - Northwich, Winnington Rec / Apr 17 - Lancaster, The Gregson ==> BARBARA THOMPSON'S PARAPHERNALIA <=================================== [B.Thompson/B.Thompson/P.Lemer/D.Ball/J.Hiseman] * GERMANY/AUSTRIA/HUNGARY Apr 08 - Vlotho (Germany), t.b.a. / Apr 09 - Salzgitter (Germany), Kulturscheune / Apr 10 - Kiel (Germany), Räucherei / Apr 11 - Bremen (Germany), t.b.a. / Apr 13 - Kaiserslautern (Germany), Kammgarn / Apr 14 - Kehl (Germany), Stadthalle / Apr 15 - Pfullendorf (Germany), Stadthalle / Apr 16 - Heidenheim (Germany), Berufsakademie Heidenheim / Apr 17 - Singen (Germany), Gems / Apr 18 - Freiburg (Germany), Jazzhaus / Apr 21 - Osnabrück (Germany), Lagerhalle / Apr 22 - Gronau (Germany), Studio in der Brücke / Apr 24 - Tübingen (Germany), Zentrum Zoo * U.K. May 26 - Taunton, Brewhouse Arts Centre (Coal Orchard) [7.45pm] / May 28 - Norwich, Arts Centre / May 29 - Brentwood, Hermit Club (plus drum workshop) / May 31 - Bridport, Arts Centre / Jun 02 - Hayward's Heath (West Sussex), Clair Hall (Perrymount Road) [8.00pm] / Jun 03 - Poole (Dorset), Arts Centre (Kingland Road) [8.00pm] / Jun 04 - Gravesend (Kent), Woodville Halls Theatre (Woodville Place) [8.00pm] / Jun 06 - London, Barbican Centre (Foyer concert) [12.30-2.30pm] / Jun 06 - Bracknell, Wilde Theatre [7.45pm] / Jun 08 - Cardiff? / Jun 09 - Exeter, Arts Centre / Jun 10 - Cardiff? / Jun 11 - Milton Keynes, Wavendon Arts Centre / Jun 12 - Colchester, Arts Centre plus drum workshop? / Jun 13 - Nottingham, Bonington Theatre (Jazz Club) [8.00pm] / Jun 15 - Newport, Corn Exchange? / Jun 16 - Camberley (Surrey), Arts Link (Knoll Road) [8.00pm] / Jun 18 - Kendal, Brewery Arts Centre / Jun 20 - Manchester, Royal Northern College of Music [afternoon concert] / Jun 24 - Cambridge, Eley? / Jun 25 - Halstead / Jun 27 - Lichfield Real, Jazz & Blues Festival [6pm] (2 sets) ==> INVISIBLE OPERA COMPANY OF TIBET <=================================== May 14 - Glastonbury, Backpackers (Crown Hotel) / May 27 - Exeter, The Bowling Green (Blackboy Rd.) ==> GLOBAL <============================================================= Jul 10 - Salisbury, Lama Tree Festival / Aug 14 - Devon, Arlington Court Festival (near Barnstable) / Sep-Oct - small tour of Scotland/Ireland ==> FRED FRITH <========================================================= * w. LOUIS SCLAVIS & JEAN-PIERRE DROUET Apr 06 - Paris, festival Banlieues Bleues * w. CHRIS CUTLER : Italian tour Apr 14 - Torino / Apr 15 - Roma / Apr 16 - Verona / Apr 17 - Meldola / Apr 18 - Bolzano / Apr 19 - Milano ========================================================================= * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** AND OTHER GOOD GIGS... ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ==> BILL BRUFORD'S EARTHWORKS / UK TOUR <================================ May 20 - Poole (Dorset), Arts Centre / May 21 - Carlyon Bay (Cornwall), Waterfront / May 23 - Barnet (Herts.), Bull Theatre / May 25 - Newbury (Berks.), Corn Exchange / May 26 - Aldershot (Hants.), West End Centre / May 27 - Banbury (Oxon), Mill Arts Centre / May 28 - Brentford, Watermans Arts Centre / May 29 - London, Blackheath Concert Halls / May 30 - Heath (W.Sussex), Clair Hall Haywards / Jun 02 - Swindon, Arts Centre / Jun 03 - Southampton, Gantry Arts Centre / Jun 04 - Staffs, Lichfield Arts Centre / Jun 05 - Trowbridge (Wilts), Arc Theatre / Jun 06 - Wavendon (Bucks), The Stables ==> COLIN BASS GROUP feat.Andrew Latimer <=============================== Apr 15 - Verviers (Belgium), Spirit Of '66 / Apr 16 - Alphen a/d Rijn (Holland), Kasteel / Apr 17 - Hellendoorn (Holland), De Lantaarn / Apr 18 - Zaandam (Holland), De Kade / Apr 19 - Tilburg (Holland), 013 / Apr 22 - Bordeaux (France), Thelonious / Apr 23/24 - Spain (t.b.c.) Also featuring: Camel/Fish drummer Dave Stewart and members of the Polish band Quidam (Quidam will be the opening band). ==> MAGMA <============================================================== * FRANCE Apr 01 - Nantes / Apr 03 - Strasbourg, La Laiterie / Apr 07 - Toulouse, Le Bikini (t.b.c.) / Apr 08 - Montpellier, Le Rockstore / Apr 09 - Marseille, Le Moulin / Apr 21 - Dijon, La Vapeur / May 01 - Hagondange (near Metz), Salle Paul Lamm * NORTH AMERICA May 23 - Québec City / May 25 - Boston / May 26 - Baltimore / May 27 - New York City / May 28 - Chicago / May 30 - San Francisco / May 31 - Los Angeles / Jun 01 - Seattle / Jun 02 - Vancouver / Jun 05 - Mexico City / Jun 06 - Mexico City ==> JAC LA GRECA [Holdsworth-style fusion] <============================= 2 gigs in Paris:Apr 28 - Peniche "La Balle Au Bond" / Jun 03 - Peniche "Le Six-Huit" ================================================================================================================================================== END OF ISSUE 122 _________________________________________________________________________ WHAT'S RATTLIN' ? - WHAT'S RATTLIN' ? - WHAT'S RATTLIN' ?_________________________________________________________________________ CALYX - The Canterbury Website http://www.alpes-net.fr/~bigbang/calyx.html THE ULTIMATE ONLINE CANTERBURY DISCOGRAPHY http://www.alpes-net.fr/~bigbang/cantdisco.html WHAT'S RATTLIN' ? 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