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Friday, December 4th,
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From: "William Storage" <storage@nerve-net.com>
Subject: Voiceprint reissues
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:03:53 -0800
Hi folks:
Regarding the Voiceprint releases:
I was finally able to get John Greaves' Accident and Kew
Rhone from Amazon.
Its great to finally have these on CD. Accident is a
decent sounding "pressing" but Kew Rhone was an incredible
disappointment. The horns sound like electronic grit.
An interesting thought experiment (not a real offer):
I find a good copy of the lp. I make a quality CD from it.
I make the following offer. Send me a Voiceprint copy of Kew
Rhone. I will return you a copy of the lp-based CD, and your
Voiceprint copy with a hole in it that renders it useless. This
practice ensures that such copying does not increase the number of
copies in existence (that could be sold). Every owner of the
lp-based copy payed their dues to Voiceprint and to Greaves. There
is no possibility of lost sales. "Fair use" ruling is satisfied
(you can make copies of stuff you own for personal use).
Of course this is probably more trouble than its worth.
Then again, if anyone offers to do this, I've got a Voiceprint Kew
Rhone I'd love to see with a bullet hole in it.
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From: toni besos <tonibeso@arrakis.es>
Subject: Robert Wyatt´s Video
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:55:52 +0100
Hello. I´m Antonio and I´m spanish, and I don't speak
english but I try to explain my desire.
The first: congratulations for your bulletin.
And second: I want(I need) to know the e-mail or the
adress to obtain the italian video about Robert Wyatt his life and
music. Better for me in italian, I supose that there isn´t spanish
version. Well, thank you very much for your work. The best for all
lovers of the music of Robert and for all the people.
Thank you very much. Adéu. Adiós. Bye bye. Au revoir. Dash
vidania. Ciao.
Antonio.
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From: David Layton <davidlayton@earthlink.net>
Subject: CD sales, reissues, etc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 23:16:31 -0800
Quite a bit has been said about the posts from Elton Dean
and Steve Feigenbaum, and something should be said about the post
from Chris Cutler. I won't respond to these addenda individually,
but will make some general comments from my perspective as a
long-time collector (though not as long as some of you) and
one-time progressive disc jockey.
Basically, it is important to point out that our favorite
musical artists are having a tough time out there, and the only
ones who can fix it are we. It has now been 30 years,
approximately, since the whole Canterbury/progressive/fusion
phenomenon started. If we take just the Wilde Flower musicians as
a starting point, that is A LOT of music out there. My tastes, and
I think this is true for many of us, are rather wide spread. It
would take a fortune to get the collection I would like. I've
probably spent too much already. This difficulty can make buyers
conservative, unwilling to plunk down their $15, 12L, or 130ff
for a risk. It is much easier to go with what is safe.
Will it be Live at the Proms or Seven Year Itch? Chances are,
nostalgia and fear will win over daring and curiosity. So, of
course, retro CDs sell better than the new stuff.
But, as Steve Feignebaum points out, this does a great
disservice to the musicians who are still working. There can be no
wonder that Hugh Hopper once worked at a travel agency or that
Richard Sinclair prefers carpentry when no one will buy their new
CDs, when a good showing at one of their concerts is 100 people.
It is not, as some have said, a matter of musical quality. Because
the music now is not what you remember or what you would like the
musicians to do is not a reason for saying the music lacks
quality. No matter how good "Nine Feet Underground" is, I
would not want to play it repeatedly for thrity years. I have new
ideas, new feelings I as a musician would like to put forward. We
tend to forget that "Chloe And the Pirates" was once new and
avant-garde.
The short of it is that we should stretch out a little
bit. So "Music From A Round Tower" is not Egg II. It is a
magnificent work anyway and deserves our patronage.
Which brings me in a roundabout fashion to bootlegs.
Obviously a couple of blokes swapping tapes is nothing to get
upset about. The problem occurs when someone decides to make money
off of these things. This amounts to a big "fuck you" to the
artists who receive nothing for these works, and the excuses that
music should be free or that bootlegs are really an homage just
don't make it.
Internet bootlegging, brought up by Chris Cutler, is
another area of concern here. Sure, the internet is free.
But talent is not. It takes a lot of work to put together an
album, a song even, and the enjoyment we get from it deserves our
official recognition in return. Posting these things for free
access on the internet amounts to bootlegging in a certain way. It
is not like radio. On radio, though the artist is not directly
paid for the work aired, the aired work acts as an advertisement,
spurring the desire for people to acquire the item. Radio is
not a storage system. Though people may tape off the radio,
ultimately this is too much trouble and they simply buy the music
if they like it enough. The computer is a storage system, so
that a person may simply retrieve the file off the net and use it
at leisure. The artist receives nothing for this and there is
little incentive beyond better sound quality for a person to get
the cd, especially if it is hard to find. In the long run, artists
will get far less from internet posting than from free radio
airplay. I agree with Chris that some
equitable system of nominal payment should be emplaced.
What kind of system, I can't say.
There, that's my $1.50 worth. Comments and suggestions
greatly encouraged.
From the land that brought you Toto, too,
David
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From: Gary Davis <artshop@artist-shop.com>
Subject: Hux Records
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:26:04 -0500
Hi, folks:
The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out and you'll find
it in its entirety at
<http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm>. Here's one
little snippet from it of special interest to Canterbury fans.
New to The Artist Shop is the UK label, Hux Records
<http://www.artist-shop.com/hux>. The folks who
created Hux records were also responsible for the Windsong and
Strange Fruit labels. It seems they have access to a HUGE cache of
BBC recordings that have not seen the light of day on CD or any
other official recording.
Among their first releases are recordings by Caravan,
Gentle Giant, Jan Akkerman of Focus, Bill Nelson's Be Bop Deluxe,
Kevin Ayers (with Mike Oldfield, David Bedford, Lol Coxhill),
Atomic Rooster (with Carl Palmer), and much more. Also much
more to come! Definitely visit this page on a regular
basis. For a label that's just started, they've got an
incredible catalog under their belt!
Also more frightening news from One Way
<http://www.artist-shop.com/oneway> as they continue to
whittle away their catalog. I'd previously reported that the
Soft Machine titles Four, Five, Six and Seven had been moved to
their "not to be repressed once depleted" list. I'm afraid
that two more Soft Machine titles have been moved to that list -
specifically The Soft Machine and Volume Two. So folks who have
any interest in any of those six Soft Machine titles had better
act while they can.
Gary
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From: "Charlotte & Ulrik Stenberg & Fackmann"
<facksten@get2net.dk>
Subject: Best music site on the web
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 18:17:19 +0100
Hello There!
I just tell you, that I consider your Canterbury Website
as one best and
most interesting and well-structured, user-friendly music
sites at all.
Even though I have only have a partial interest in
Canterbury Music (read:
GONG) I keep returning to read the ever exciting, much
detailed stories on
your musicians. I feel this is the passion work of real
music fanatics
(i.e. people like myself)
Good luck to you & thank you for the information on
GONG & related
(including the much-missed lyrics).
Ulrik Fackmann, København/Copenhagen, Deanmark
facksten@get2net.dk
[Can't help including that sort of message in WR! - AL]
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From: HuskerDeux@aol.com
Subject: Blegvad at Hitchcock
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 23:16:33 EST
Just a few additions to Matthew's review:
I thought Whistler were pretty dull; lyrically fairly
ungenerous too, lots of songs saying "please stop loving me" and
"go away and kill yourself." They made a harmless sub-Fairport
noise - when they weren't sounding like Frente - but nothing that
got me particularly excited. But then I never understood the fuss
about The Cranberries....
Shirt report: black w/white polka dots for main set; black
and white diamonds for the encores.
The Joan Baez song that Matthew mentioned was "Silver
Dagger" - this actually came early in the set; the encore cover
was REM's "Electrolyte" with Tim being the Michael Stipe Music
Stand.
Approximately-ordered set list:
ac:
cynthia mask
sally was a legend (? new to me)
when i was dead
silver dagger
victorian squid
nasa clapping
i don't remember guildford
queen of eyes +
viva sea-tac +
(we think there was another one here with Tim but can't
remember what !) +
elec:
autumn is your last chance
you and oblivion
freeze
unsettled
insanely jealous
encore #1, ac:
madonna of the wasps +
i feel beautiful +
jewels for sophia +
encore #2, ac:
electrolyte (+)
elec:
speed of things
+ with Tim
audience celebs: Peter Blegvad, Jerry Sadowitz, James
Fletcher (not together, but would make an entertaining trio I'm
sure).
Other notes: the sound was a little thin, a noticeable
lack of bottom end on the electric set, but pretty clear, and it
was nice to see a gig without getting smoke in your face, beer on
your shoes and irrelevant conversations burbling away in the
background (says mr grumpy). maybe too large a venue, though -
little more than half full by the looks of things, and the house
PA wasn't quite up to the job of filling the hall with that loud,
lewd & lou'd rawk sound.
Interesting that the set had virtually no duplication
(just a couple of songs) with the film; maybe robyn guessed that a
large proportion of the audience would have seen the film just a
couple of weeks earlier and decided to give us a little variety.
Storefront CD Review from The Times, London,
27/11/98:
Although doomed forever to roam the cult hinterlands along
with fellow English folk-rock eccentrics such as Roy Harper, Robyn
Hitchcock still has the clout to play the Queen Elizabeth Hall
next Monday and to get film director Jonathan Demme ("Silence of
the Lambs") to make a documentary about him.
Recorded live in a New York shop window, and punctuated by
rambling, surreal monologues, "Storefront Hitchcock" is the
soundtrack to Demme's movie, and captures the former Soft Boy in
full idiosyncratic flight. From the "jittery" histrionics of
"Freeze" to a surprisingly tender version of Jimi Hendrix's "The
Wind Cries Mary", Hitchcock maintains a fitful momentum without
ever disclosing what exactly he is on about.
(no writer credit on the cutting I've got, sorry).
>>>
I thought that this was an interesting thing, Blegvad a
Fegmaniac? Yes!!!
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From: "Claude Proost - NMC"
<claude.proost.nmc@glo.be>
Subject: centipede
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 16:51:54 +0100
Hi
Where can I buy the album Septober Energy from
Centipede?
Claude
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From: "David Voci" <david_voci@tcibr.com>
Subject: Nucleus/Jenkins
Date: 04 Dec 98 12:13:50 -0800
Just a note relative to Nucleus reissues...I got an email
from Steve Feigenbaum 3-4 months ago re possible/future
availability of Nucleus reissues... I am not sure about the exact
nature of his message but I seem to remember that SF said that a
good part of Nucleus' catalogue would be re-released
in near future...I do own the double CD release of the first two
Nucleus records on BGO but as many readers would agree(I know Age
Rosthuizen made mention of this topic in #110 or #111)it would be
hella cool to be able to buy the rest of the catalogue on CD as
this is an extremely good band/very Canterbury(IMO). I know
alot of Rattlers and others would love to have their catalogue
made more available. The exact same is true of Elton Dean's
massive catalogue.
I was listening to the above CD over the weekend and
basically realised how great Nucleus really is and how great a
musician Karl Jenkins is, especially considering that when John
Marshall is on board, things really cook. I am a bit surprised
that Nucles does not get talked about more on these pages.
A while ago I came into some very cheap closeout CD's from
a German label called DA Music who had a sales office in New
Jersey near Asbury Park (Hi Jersey Gypsy) and just to finish my
order I received a bunch of selections from the United Rock and
Jazz Ensemble. I didn't hang on to these CD's for long as the
music wasn't compelling enough for me(very mainstream/typical/
etc)but there was one called 'Live Im Schutzenhaus' that opened up
with a very CB sounding number...Of the six or so that I got this
live CD came closest to CB even though there was only a song or
two that really jumped out at me.
In closing I would like to commend the first Gilgamesh CD
as I recently got it from a local shop...Hard as hell to get but
alas, a great piece...Now to be able to find the second
one...Which I believe is on Spalax as well as the first Soft Heap
LP...I have to do some heavy checking as certain Spalax stuff is
hard to get even though most is pretty well circulated.
Enjoy,
dv
[A good opportunity to mention that a brand new interview
with John Marshall has just been added to Calyx. The URL is :
http://www.alpes-net.fr/~bigbang/interviews/jmarshall.html
- AL]
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Feb 27 - Faches-Tumesnil [near Lille] (France), Les
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Mar 06 - Jarny (France), Espace Gérard Philippe [tel:
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